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Laws protecting against insulting of government institutions exist in most countries of the world, but nowhere I heard about 43-year sentence. This conviction c
by miga 6y ago
Laws protecting against insulting of government institutions exist in most countries of the world, but nowhere I heard about 43-year sentence. This conviction carries penalty that is over twice as long as maximum mandatory imprisonment for high felony in European countries.
It shows the difference between law system based on terror of penalty, and law system that attempts to resocialize offenders (see over 1000-year total conviction here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53003685 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53003685).
Another unfortunate consequence is that Thai prisons are overcrowded and likely to infringe on human rights of detainees: https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/14/joint-letter-thailand-department-corrections-director-general-pol-col-naras https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/14/joint-letter-thailand-de...
- ROARosen 6y agoTheres a guy in the US sentenced to 845 years for a white collar crime [1] [1] https://medium.com/lighterside/sentenced-to-845-years-the-thief-that-never-stole-anything-9618d5356ae2 https://medium.com/lighterside/sentenced-to-845-years-the-th...
- amelius 6y agoProbably because his crime was, rather arbitrarily, divided into sub-crimes, and the sentences for these were summed.
- FeepingCreature 6y agoProbably. But to mangle a quote: nice reason, still injustice.
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- ROARosen 6y agoI'm not that familiar with the case. Here is the first result from google however, comparing his sentence with other notorious cases[1] [1]https://www.freedomforsholam.com/ https://www.freedomforsholam.com/
- bccdee 6y agoRight. Law systems based on terror of penalty. The US prison system is shockingly regressive.
- trasz 6y agoOn the other hand, in USA one can sometimes get sentenced a fine for murder, so perhaps it evens out
- ROARosen 6y agoUPDATE: A day after we discussed this case here, Trump commuted this guys sentence (his last day in office)[1] [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholam_Weiss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholam_Weiss
- SeanLuke 6y ago> Laws protecting against insulting of government institutions exist in most countries of the world ??? Lese-majeste largely exists as an embarassing relic of a few European monarchies and former monarchies and in several thuggish middle eastern and asian dictatorships. In can insult government institutions in the US as much as I please.
- gpderetta 6y agoItaly has lèse-majesté laws against the head of state and other institutions.
- kaibee 6y agoAre they actually enforced, or is it simply that they're still on the books? There are a lot of laws in the USA that are on the books, but would be struck down as unconstitutional if anyone ever tried to enforce them.
- gpderetta 6y agothey are sometimes enforced.
- SeanLuke 6y ago... as an embarrassing relic of a former monarchy.
- gpderetta 6y agotrue!