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How to destroy your battery fast. This whole "fast charging" concept is people trying to 100% mimic the gas powered car. EVs are different. You can fill the

How to destroy your battery fast. This whole "fast charging" concept is people trying to 100% mimic the gas powered car. EVs are different. You can fill them up overnight. Or with excess solar on the grid.

GuB-42 6y ago
Fast charging is here to address a major shortcoming of current electric cars in general: range is short and there is no easy way of recharging en route. The "charge overnight" model is ideal for commutes within the EV range, but not for long road trips. This is a problem and we need solutions. Solutions include: - Fast charging: Yes, it is mimicking gas cars, but gas cars are great at that, so it is not a bad thing - Huge batteries: The idea is to have enough range not to need en route recharging. Problem is, batteries are heavy and expensive - An internal combustion engine: Purists don't like it, but it can be a good compromise for many people - Battery swapping: it has been suggested, Tesla even did a demo, but it doesn't seem practical If you don't consider it a problem because "EVs are different", then EVs will never replace gas cars. And replacing gas cars with EVs as much as possible is exactly what we want.
- nojokes 6y ago
  Actually when I am driving long range, I will do a break in every 4 hours (top). What is needed is actually a tense infrastructure of charging stations. These do not have to be like gas stations - big and manned, so more can be added.
- somedude895 6y ago
  I've driven my 75kwh Model S all over Europe, and it works just fine. With a dense fast-charging network, you make a 30 minute stop every 2.5 hours. Stretch your legs, go to the bathroom and have a cup of coffee. Sure, if you're in a hurry, you'll be at your destination slightly quicker in a gas powered car, but that's normally not the case on a 1'000 km trip.
- Hypx 6y ago
  The idea of the fuel cell car tends to loom large in such conversations. It solves all problems in one package, without having to resort to problematic ideas like battery swapping.
- imtringued 6y ago
  If someone takes a 1000 mile trip every week I don't blame them for going with a gas car (although I still reserve the right to say that traveling 1000 miles every week is inefficient unless there is an economical reason for that). The problem is that most people use their car to commute and they also use that car for maybe 4 car trips per year. Somehow waiting 2 hours more per trip is completely unacceptable but causing pollution that makes people ill even when it is completely unnecessary is somehow very acceptable. People will imagine impossible technology to save those 8 hours per year and then pretend that they deserve this impossible technology. Think about how impossible it is to solve climate change with CO2 polluting cars. Meanwhile waiting for your EV to charge up 4 times a year is the worst and climate change is considered the lesser evil.

GuB-42 6y ago

Fast charging is here to address a major shortcoming of current electric cars in general: range is short and there is no easy way of recharging en route. The "charge overnight" model is ideal for commutes within the EV range, but not for long road trips. This is a problem and we need solutions. Solutions include: - Fast charging: Yes, it is mimicking gas cars, but gas cars are great at that, so it is not a bad thing - Huge batteries: The idea is to have enough range not to need en route recharging. Problem is, batteries are heavy and expensive - An internal combustion engine: Purists don't like it, but it can be a good compromise for many people - Battery swapping: it has been suggested, Tesla even did a demo, but it doesn't seem practical If you don't consider it a problem because "EVs are different", then EVs will never replace gas cars. And replacing gas cars with EVs as much as possible is exactly what we want.

nojokes 6y ago
Actually when I am driving long range, I will do a break in every 4 hours (top). What is needed is actually a tense infrastructure of charging stations. These do not have to be like gas stations - big and manned, so more can be added.
somedude895 6y ago
I've driven my 75kwh Model S all over Europe, and it works just fine. With a dense fast-charging network, you make a 30 minute stop every 2.5 hours. Stretch your legs, go to the bathroom and have a cup of coffee. Sure, if you're in a hurry, you'll be at your destination slightly quicker in a gas powered car, but that's normally not the case on a 1'000 km trip.
Hypx 6y ago
The idea of the fuel cell car tends to loom large in such conversations. It solves all problems in one package, without having to resort to problematic ideas like battery swapping.
imtringued 6y ago
If someone takes a 1000 mile trip every week I don't blame them for going with a gas car (although I still reserve the right to say that traveling 1000 miles every week is inefficient unless there is an economical reason for that). The problem is that most people use their car to commute and they also use that car for maybe 4 car trips per year. Somehow waiting 2 hours more per trip is completely unacceptable but causing pollution that makes people ill even when it is completely unnecessary is somehow very acceptable. People will imagine impossible technology to save those 8 hours per year and then pretend that they deserve this impossible technology. Think about how impossible it is to solve climate change with CO2 polluting cars. Meanwhile waiting for your EV to charge up 4 times a year is the worst and climate change is considered the lesser evil.