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Perhaps you are not in the population of people that would be put in harms way if the people who stormed the capitol were successful?

smsm42 6y ago
Successful in what? Stealing Pelosi's podium? Yes, she'd have to order a new one. And a new laptop. And probably fix some windows That's terrible, but what "population of people" do you mean here, beyond folks that need to clean up that shit (and who have my wholehearted compassion, it must have sucked)?
- DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
  > Successful in what Successful in killing/hold hostage those elected officials they deemed against their cause. This could have ended so much worse than it did. For example, what do you think would've happened if AOC or one of the other congresswomen maligned by Trump ended up in front of these maniacs? Do you think they would have stopped at stealing podiums/laptops?
  - ganoushoreilly 6y ago
    What would have happened if any of the riots this past year escalated to violence because of heavy handed actions of the "left". In fact, we know what happened, death and destruction. Why is this not viewed in the same way? It's a complete attack on our country and government, but was somehow sanctioned?
    - stolen_biscuit 6y ago
      Because people rioting over centuries of racial abuse and systematic racially motivated murder at the hands of policeman is not the same thing as storming your nations capitol because you don't like the results of a free and fair election
      - ganoushoreilly 6y ago
        Oh so lets scream ACAB, remove our police, allow crime to grow and that will fix things? How many of the protests / riots were started in response to a police shooting and then months later it is clearer that the use of force was justified? I was 100% onboard with reformation of policing, increasing training, and the likes. When rioters attacked small business, used strong arm tactics to establish autonomous zones in us Cities, burned down police stations, attacked innocent bystanders.. etc.. you lost my empathy. I'm 100% for equality, I'm 100% for people loving whome ever they want. You have my support. But when the demonization of anyone that doesn't 100% toe the line becomes standard you lose me and a large portion of America. Both sides are going crazy and until both sides acknowledge that, it's only going to get worse. Media and big tech taking these actions will escalate not de-escalate.
      - h_anna_h 6y ago
        > because you don't like the results of a free and fair election This is what you think but they do not. They believed that they were protecting the integrity of the elections.
    - vel0city 6y ago
      While I don't doubt many leftists were violent in those BLM protests, many of them were not leftists. Many were anarchists, which its hard to be both at the same time. Also, some who were actually charged by the federal DoJ were members of right-wing groups trying to ignite the race war. These aren't conspiracy theories, these are looking at the actual people charged with committing violence during these protests. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748 https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity... https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/self-described-member-boogaloo-bois-charged-riot https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/self-described-member-boo... http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/Hunter_complaint_affidavit.pdf http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/Hunter_complaint_af...

smsm42 6y ago

Successful in what? Stealing Pelosi's podium? Yes, she'd have to order a new one. And a new laptop. And probably fix some windows That's terrible, but what "population of people" do you mean here, beyond folks that need to clean up that shit (and who have my wholehearted compassion, it must have sucked)?

DarmokJalad1701 6y ago
> Successful in what Successful in killing/hold hostage those elected officials they deemed against their cause. This could have ended so much worse than it did. For example, what do you think would've happened if AOC or one of the other congresswomen maligned by Trump ended up in front of these maniacs? Do you think they would have stopped at stealing podiums/laptops?
- ganoushoreilly 6y ago
  What would have happened if any of the riots this past year escalated to violence because of heavy handed actions of the "left". In fact, we know what happened, death and destruction. Why is this not viewed in the same way? It's a complete attack on our country and government, but was somehow sanctioned?
  - stolen_biscuit 6y ago
    Because people rioting over centuries of racial abuse and systematic racially motivated murder at the hands of policeman is not the same thing as storming your nations capitol because you don't like the results of a free and fair election
    - ganoushoreilly 6y ago
      Oh so lets scream ACAB, remove our police, allow crime to grow and that will fix things? How many of the protests / riots were started in response to a police shooting and then months later it is clearer that the use of force was justified? I was 100% onboard with reformation of policing, increasing training, and the likes. When rioters attacked small business, used strong arm tactics to establish autonomous zones in us Cities, burned down police stations, attacked innocent bystanders.. etc.. you lost my empathy. I'm 100% for equality, I'm 100% for people loving whome ever they want. You have my support. But when the demonization of anyone that doesn't 100% toe the line becomes standard you lose me and a large portion of America. Both sides are going crazy and until both sides acknowledge that, it's only going to get worse. Media and big tech taking these actions will escalate not de-escalate.
    - h_anna_h 6y ago
      > because you don't like the results of a free and fair election This is what you think but they do not. They believed that they were protecting the integrity of the elections.
  - vel0city 6y ago
    While I don't doubt many leftists were violent in those BLM protests, many of them were not leftists. Many were anarchists, which its hard to be both at the same time. Also, some who were actually charged by the federal DoJ were members of right-wing groups trying to ignite the race war. These aren't conspiracy theories, these are looking at the actual people charged with committing violence during these protests. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748 https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity... https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/self-described-member-boogaloo-bois-charged-riot https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/pr/self-described-member-boo... http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/Hunter_complaint_affidavit.pdf http://stmedia.startribune.com/documents/Hunter_complaint_af...