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Same here. I like the touch bar but unless they find a way to make it feasible on a Bluetooth magic keyboard, I’d rather have no touch bar for consistency. If t

Same here. I like the touch bar but unless they find a way to make it feasible on a Bluetooth magic keyboard, I’d rather have no touch bar for consistency. If they are going to kill it they should have killed it with the first M1 MacBooks. I’m also all in on USB-c (even my shaver uses it for charging) and don’t miss MagSafe at all. Charging from either side is surprisingly handy. One charger for everything is a traveling game changer. $50 worth of charger and dongles has a permanent spot in my luggage. Hopefully MagSafe in this case means wireless iPhone charging. I just don’t need MagSafe power in. I especially don’t need it now that the battery life is so long. I charge at my desk and if I use my MacBook somewhere else I don’t even take a charger with me. That being said I wouldn’t mind one USB-a and one HDMI port. Since the rumour is for a less rounded design I guess the edge thickness may be enough to easily support those.

mbirth 6y ago
If you use an iPad as a sidecar, there's a touchbar there. However, that touchbar only works for apps you've moved onto the sidecar display for some reason.
solarkraft 6y ago
> Hopefully MagSafe in this case means wireless iPhone charging That would require a massive change, since you can't transmit power through metal. I can't really see the top surface being made out of glass, thus the only other place for charging would be the touchpad.
- varjag 6y ago
  You can transmit power through non-ferrous metals.
  - totalZero 6y ago
    Even a non-ferrous metal can interfere with electromagnetic fields (try dropping a cylindrical neodymium magnet down a copper tube if you don't believe me). There exist some wireless charging methods that aren't affected by metallic enclosures, but that's not true for all wireless charging in general.
smichel17 6y ago
> I’m also all in on USB-c (even my shaver uses it for charging) It's funny how different people's experiences can be. Maybe it's because I'm not in the Apple ecosystem and tend to use my devices until they break, but I own a single device that uses usb-c: a raspberry pi 4b. There are two other usb-c ports in my house, one on my laptop and one on my desktop, but I've never used them. I don't even own a separate usb-c cable (the pi charger is integrated). I kind of dread making the switch for peripherals because I'm going to have to replace everything.
- bartvk 6y ago
  > because I'm going to have to replace everything You mean, you'll have to replace the cables. Not the devices themselves, unless you want to be able to use USB-C-to-C cables everywhere.
  - smichel17 6y ago
    Actually, I mean that I'm dreading the choice between replacing everything and dealing with a hodgepodge of different cables. Right now, all of the "source" devices (for lack of a better word) have USB-A "out" — laptop, desktop, charging bricks — and all the peripherals — phone, tablet, bluetooth speaker, xbox controller… — have USB-Micro "in". Thus, the only type of usb cable that I need is A->Micro. If/when I replace my phone, I have my first USB-C peripheral, but the others haven't disappeared, so now I need both my old A->Micro cables and A->C for my phone. Same for my laptop, on the source end — now I need C->C and C->Micro, too. It gets worse: it's rare that I want to charge/connect all my peripherals at once, but it's common that I'll want to charge any two. Plus, you always want a spare. So now instead of ~3 cables, I'm going to end up with probably 7 or 8, and when I go to grab one out of the drawer I'll need to check both ends of the cable to know I'm getting the right one… ugh. The only way to keep the combinations under control is to replace all source devices or all peripherals at once (or take the middle ground and buy a bunch of C->Micro dongles, pair one with each peripheral, and now they're faux-C peripherals). None of these options are particularly appealing to me. I'm being a little melodramatic. It's not really that big of a deal. I'll live through it and eventually I'll make it out the other end and maybe I'll be in a C->C golden era. I'm just not looking forward to the transition when USB cable story right now is pretty simple (even if I dislike Micro; Mini was a far nicer connector).
ralphc 6y ago
Yes, that's what I appreciate the most with the USB-C on my 2019 MBP. No matter where I am I can plug the charger in on either side nearest to the wall. Of course with the M1 or later ARM chips charging will be less of an issue.

mbirth 6y ago

If you use an iPad as a sidecar, there's a touchbar there. However, that touchbar only works for apps you've moved onto the sidecar display for some reason.

solarkraft 6y ago

> Hopefully MagSafe in this case means wireless iPhone charging That would require a massive change, since you can't transmit power through metal. I can't really see the top surface being made out of glass, thus the only other place for charging would be the touchpad.

varjag 6y ago
You can transmit power through non-ferrous metals.
- totalZero 6y ago
  Even a non-ferrous metal can interfere with electromagnetic fields (try dropping a cylindrical neodymium magnet down a copper tube if you don't believe me). There exist some wireless charging methods that aren't affected by metallic enclosures, but that's not true for all wireless charging in general.

smichel17 6y ago

> I’m also all in on USB-c (even my shaver uses it for charging) It's funny how different people's experiences can be. Maybe it's because I'm not in the Apple ecosystem and tend to use my devices until they break, but I own a single device that uses usb-c: a raspberry pi 4b. There are two other usb-c ports in my house, one on my laptop and one on my desktop, but I've never used them. I don't even own a separate usb-c cable (the pi charger is integrated). I kind of dread making the switch for peripherals because I'm going to have to replace everything.

bartvk 6y ago
> because I'm going to have to replace everything You mean, you'll have to replace the cables. Not the devices themselves, unless you want to be able to use USB-C-to-C cables everywhere.
- smichel17 6y ago
  Actually, I mean that I'm dreading the choice between replacing everything and dealing with a hodgepodge of different cables. Right now, all of the "source" devices (for lack of a better word) have USB-A "out" — laptop, desktop, charging bricks — and all the peripherals — phone, tablet, bluetooth speaker, xbox controller… — have USB-Micro "in". Thus, the only type of usb cable that I need is A->Micro. If/when I replace my phone, I have my first USB-C peripheral, but the others haven't disappeared, so now I need both my old A->Micro cables and A->C for my phone. Same for my laptop, on the source end — now I need C->C and C->Micro, too. It gets worse: it's rare that I want to charge/connect all my peripherals at once, but it's common that I'll want to charge any two. Plus, you always want a spare. So now instead of ~3 cables, I'm going to end up with probably 7 or 8, and when I go to grab one out of the drawer I'll need to check both ends of the cable to know I'm getting the right one… ugh. The only way to keep the combinations under control is to replace all source devices or all peripherals at once (or take the middle ground and buy a bunch of C->Micro dongles, pair one with each peripheral, and now they're faux-C peripherals). None of these options are particularly appealing to me. I'm being a little melodramatic. It's not really that big of a deal. I'll live through it and eventually I'll make it out the other end and maybe I'll be in a C->C golden era. I'm just not looking forward to the transition when USB cable story right now is pretty simple (even if I dislike Micro; Mini was a far nicer connector).

ralphc 6y ago

Yes, that's what I appreciate the most with the USB-C on my 2019 MBP. No matter where I am I can plug the charger in on either side nearest to the wall. Of course with the M1 or later ARM chips charging will be less of an issue.