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Server-side code is doing too much

16 points by hackernewslol 6y ago

chorizobunny 6y ago
Twitter needs to cease wasting my browser's time with their goddamn bird and whirling "wait" circle and just put up the goddamn tweet! And they need a javascript-free version.
wtfiswiththis 6y ago
I think the only time I've seen substance in Elon's tweets is when he is going on about SpaceX. This is a good example, he appears to be rehashing what he read about Signal's problems and is just tweeting the summary at them. Thanks for the words Elon, I guess?
kohlerm 6y ago
Elon is clueless and so are people who think that the use of java is the problem
gregjor 6y ago
We need a Goldwater Rule for diagnosing infrastructure and code you’ve never seen.
colesantiago 6y ago
Bystander: "He's dead sir". Detective: "No shit, I already knew that, what's new?"
deleted 6y ago
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anothernewdude 6y ago
Yeah, tear out all that useless security
permille42 6y ago
Why in the holy fuck do any of you give a single shit about Musk's opinions on software engineering? He isn't a software engineer. It's astounding to me that anyone considers Musk's opinion about software as having any value. To help stave off the inevitable downvotes you idiots are sure to give me, I'll also address the point itself. Most mobile devices do not gain a routable public IP address, so some third party server is required to establish a connection between users of a mobile service. I agree that allowing anyone to run such servers provides more redundancy, but then they would not have control of their own service. Most creators of software want to remain in control of their baby so to speak. The main reason services go down is not because of lack of computation power but lack of ability to have so many simultaneous network connections. I think Musk is wrong that the problem is "the servers are doing too much".
- Toutouxc 6y ago
  What? He was literally the CTO of a company sold for $305M, made his first money coding at the age of 12.
  - permille42 6y ago
    Being a CTO doesn't mean you have any value as a software engineer. Hell I was offered a role as a CTO. I turned that shit down. Babysitting others is not my forte, nor is spending my time running a business instead of learning more tech. Am I supposed to be impressed by earning money coding at 12? I'm not. At all. I assume this is what you are referring to ( Blastar for Spectravideo 318/328 ): https://ia803005.us.archive.org/4/items/blastar-elon-musk-spectravideo/Blastar%20Elon%20Musk%20Spectravideo%20%28minus%20red%29.png https://ia803005.us.archive.org/4/items/blastar-elon-musk-sp... Link to source code instead of image: https://undone.se/misc/blastar.txt https://undone.se/misc/blastar.txt Some discussion about whether he is good at programming. https://www.quora.com/How-good-is-Elon-Musk-at-programming https://www.quora.com/How-good-is-Elon-Musk-at-programming It seems to amount to "he wrote some basic and assembly language a long time ago." I call nonsense. I've written over 3 million lines of code over my career spread across 8 different languages. If what exists of Musk's code publicly means he is a programming genius then I must be a programming god. By the way: I also wrote code at the age of 9. I was writing assembly language at 10. Despite this, what I did when I was a kid, or even middle age, doesn't mean squat. What matters is consistently writing high quality code over your entire career. Being a manager is not being a coder. They are very different. Also, he doesn't have knowledge of what Signal services are doing internally so his comment is simply speculation. You seem to hate my condemnation of his coding skills, but my condemnation of his twitter comment is no worse than his own mockery of Signal; a free service serving the community. Elon Musk, afaiac is a rich asshole who doesn't do shit to contribute. If he is so great, where is his free replacement for Signal that is far better hmm? He can certainly afford to hire some people who actually know how to code to write it for him.
    - eternalsculptor 6y ago
      You need to relax. Yes his comment is speculation, does that mean he is necessarily wrong? He is giving his first-thought analysis of what might be the problem at Signal. Is that such a crime?

16 points by hackernewslol 6y ago

Twitter needs to cease wasting my browser's time with their goddamn bird and whirling "wait" circle and just put up the goddamn tweet! And they need a javascript-free version.

wtfiswiththis 6y ago

I think the only time I've seen substance in Elon's tweets is when he is going on about SpaceX. This is a good example, he appears to be rehashing what he read about Signal's problems and is just tweeting the summary at them. Thanks for the words Elon, I guess?

kohlerm 6y ago

Elon is clueless and so are people who think that the use of java is the problem

gregjor 6y ago

We need a Goldwater Rule for diagnosing infrastructure and code you’ve never seen.

colesantiago 6y ago

Bystander: "He's dead sir". Detective: "No shit, I already knew that, what's new?"

deleted 6y ago

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anothernewdude 6y ago

Yeah, tear out all that useless security

permille42 6y ago

Why in the holy fuck do any of you give a single shit about Musk's opinions on software engineering? He isn't a software engineer. It's astounding to me that anyone considers Musk's opinion about software as having any value. To help stave off the inevitable downvotes you idiots are sure to give me, I'll also address the point itself. Most mobile devices do not gain a routable public IP address, so some third party server is required to establish a connection between users of a mobile service. I agree that allowing anyone to run such servers provides more redundancy, but then they would not have control of their own service. Most creators of software want to remain in control of their baby so to speak. The main reason services go down is not because of lack of computation power but lack of ability to have so many simultaneous network connections. I think Musk is wrong that the problem is "the servers are doing too much".

Toutouxc 6y ago
What? He was literally the CTO of a company sold for $305M, made his first money coding at the age of 12.
- permille42 6y ago
  Being a CTO doesn't mean you have any value as a software engineer. Hell I was offered a role as a CTO. I turned that shit down. Babysitting others is not my forte, nor is spending my time running a business instead of learning more tech. Am I supposed to be impressed by earning money coding at 12? I'm not. At all. I assume this is what you are referring to ( Blastar for Spectravideo 318/328 ): https://ia803005.us.archive.org/4/items/blastar-elon-musk-spectravideo/Blastar%20Elon%20Musk%20Spectravideo%20%28minus%20red%29.png https://ia803005.us.archive.org/4/items/blastar-elon-musk-sp... Link to source code instead of image: https://undone.se/misc/blastar.txt https://undone.se/misc/blastar.txt Some discussion about whether he is good at programming. https://www.quora.com/How-good-is-Elon-Musk-at-programming https://www.quora.com/How-good-is-Elon-Musk-at-programming It seems to amount to "he wrote some basic and assembly language a long time ago." I call nonsense. I've written over 3 million lines of code over my career spread across 8 different languages. If what exists of Musk's code publicly means he is a programming genius then I must be a programming god. By the way: I also wrote code at the age of 9. I was writing assembly language at 10. Despite this, what I did when I was a kid, or even middle age, doesn't mean squat. What matters is consistently writing high quality code over your entire career. Being a manager is not being a coder. They are very different. Also, he doesn't have knowledge of what Signal services are doing internally so his comment is simply speculation. You seem to hate my condemnation of his coding skills, but my condemnation of his twitter comment is no worse than his own mockery of Signal; a free service serving the community. Elon Musk, afaiac is a rich asshole who doesn't do shit to contribute. If he is so great, where is his free replacement for Signal that is far better hmm? He can certainly afford to hire some people who actually know how to code to write it for him.
  - eternalsculptor 6y ago
    You need to relax. Yes his comment is speculation, does that mean he is necessarily wrong? He is giving his first-thought analysis of what might be the problem at Signal. Is that such a crime?