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Completely agree about BMI ranges potentially being too wide. I just checked Fitbit and was surprised to see I’m now in the “ideal” range. I have man boobs and

by nxc18 6y ago

Completely agree about BMI ranges potentially being too wide. I just checked Fitbit and was surprised to see I’m now in the “ideal” range. I have man boobs and a muffin top. While I’m rarely the fattest person around anymore, I’m very clearly still overweight. It’s rare enough to see men that aren’t visibly overweight that it feels like a real exception when I do. I suspect there are _lots_ of fat men with an “ideal” BMI 18.5-24.9.

Jtsummers 6y ago
> I just checked Fitbit and was surprised to see I’m now in the “ideal” range. I have man boobs and a muffin top. While I’m rarely the fattest person around anymore, I’m very clearly still overweight. In college a classmate used the term "skinny fat" to describe himself, same body type you describe. He was within the healthy weight range for his height and frame, but because of poor diet and exercise (primarily exercise) he had a rather high body fat percentage. It's easy to hit that point if you have a halfway decent diet (at least by calorie count) but a sedentary lifestyle (like us at the time, and perhaps more now, living on our computers playing video games and programming). The rest of us were just "fat fat" since our diets (especially sodas, he never drank any and some of us were only hydrated because of them) were much worse than his and we were similarly sedentary.
- t-writescode 6y ago
  Also, the "muffin top" only really goes away at like 15% body fat or lower. I had a small muffin top back in college with an incredibly active lifestyle (lots of walks all the time) and a BMI of 21.8 (well into the 'ideal' range)
  - worker767424 6y ago
    I've been from 10% to 25% body fat and an confirm 15% is about right for the muffin top, and 20% body fat at the cutoff for a healthy level.
staticman2 6y ago
The BMI recommendations are not supposed to be based on beauty standards it's supposed to be based on health outcomes.
- spekcular 6y ago
  Body fat percentage is the more sensitive and specific indicator for health outcomes, though. I realize not everyone has access to the equipment necessary to get a good BF% measurement (handheld devices and scales are garbage – you need a laboratory). However, measuring circumference around the waist at about the height of the bellybutton accomplishes approximately the same thing. (This will not be your pants size.) Above 37 or 38, things get dicey. I'm happy to dig up references if you're curious about the details.
  - staticman2 6y ago
    No need to dig up references, I own a book on this topic. Thanks for the offer though.
    - spekcular 6y ago
      Sorry, I looked back at the comment chain and I think I replied to the wrong one!
asdff 6y ago
BMI is only so good of a measure. A bodybuilder would be labelled as morbidly obese.
qes 6y ago
At 6'0", 215 lbs, and 10% body fat (via DEXA scans) I have a BMI of 29.2 - on the high end of "overweight" - almost "obese". I'm a fit, but not especially big, casual weightlifter with a desk job.
- swat535 6y ago
  BMI is not really useful to weightlifters. You're much better look at your fat % in that case IMO.

by nxc18 6y ago

Jtsummers 6y ago

> I just checked Fitbit and was surprised to see I’m now in the “ideal” range. I have man boobs and a muffin top. While I’m rarely the fattest person around anymore, I’m very clearly still overweight. In college a classmate used the term "skinny fat" to describe himself, same body type you describe. He was within the healthy weight range for his height and frame, but because of poor diet and exercise (primarily exercise) he had a rather high body fat percentage. It's easy to hit that point if you have a halfway decent diet (at least by calorie count) but a sedentary lifestyle (like us at the time, and perhaps more now, living on our computers playing video games and programming). The rest of us were just "fat fat" since our diets (especially sodas, he never drank any and some of us were only hydrated because of them) were much worse than his and we were similarly sedentary.

t-writescode 6y ago
Also, the "muffin top" only really goes away at like 15% body fat or lower. I had a small muffin top back in college with an incredibly active lifestyle (lots of walks all the time) and a BMI of 21.8 (well into the 'ideal' range)
- worker767424 6y ago
  I've been from 10% to 25% body fat and an confirm 15% is about right for the muffin top, and 20% body fat at the cutoff for a healthy level.

staticman2 6y ago

The BMI recommendations are not supposed to be based on beauty standards it's supposed to be based on health outcomes.

spekcular 6y ago
Body fat percentage is the more sensitive and specific indicator for health outcomes, though. I realize not everyone has access to the equipment necessary to get a good BF% measurement (handheld devices and scales are garbage – you need a laboratory). However, measuring circumference around the waist at about the height of the bellybutton accomplishes approximately the same thing. (This will not be your pants size.) Above 37 or 38, things get dicey. I'm happy to dig up references if you're curious about the details.
- staticman2 6y ago
  No need to dig up references, I own a book on this topic. Thanks for the offer though.
  - spekcular 6y ago
    Sorry, I looked back at the comment chain and I think I replied to the wrong one!

asdff 6y ago

BMI is only so good of a measure. A bodybuilder would be labelled as morbidly obese.

qes 6y ago

At 6'0", 215 lbs, and 10% body fat (via DEXA scans) I have a BMI of 29.2 - on the high end of "overweight" - almost "obese". I'm a fit, but not especially big, casual weightlifter with a desk job.

swat535 6y ago
BMI is not really useful to weightlifters. You're much better look at your fat % in that case IMO.