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Unlike Parler, Facebook hosts its own metal. Beyond that it even owns its own domain registrar, CDN, and CA authority. There's no feasible way to deplatform it.

Unlike Parler, Facebook hosts its own metal. Beyond that it even owns its own domain registrar, CDN, and CA authority. There's no feasible way to deplatform it. (A good thing IMO, I just wish that same rock solid resistance to censorship was available to everybody.)

MR4D 6y ago
Apple and Google could effectively de-platform them in a day.
- dylan604 6y ago
  could they? their .com site would still work. their .onion site would still work. sure, people would bitch about not having native app any more, but unless Apple/Googs rolled an OS update to block specific .com traffic, then people could still access it via website.
- nradov 6y ago
  Apple and Google are already facing antitrust action. Politically they can't afford to make an enemy of Facebook right now.
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uniqueid 6y ago
Probably doesn't feel like a good thing when you're hiding under your bed, hoping the angry mob will tire of searching, and move on with their machetes to the next village.
- zarkov99 6y ago
  Which of the mobs?
  - Frondo 6y ago
    He could be referring to how Facebook was used in the Rohingya genocide, which they admitted to over two years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebook.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebo...
    - uniqueid 6y ago
      It was a made-up example. I suppose I combined the Rohingyan and Rwandan genocides. FB had nothing to do with the latter, of course.
      - coeneedell 6y ago
        Unless Zuckerburg has a time machine I'd have to agree with you.
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    Any of them. When you're hiding under your bed, it doesn't matter which mob it is.
yostrovs 6y ago
Apple and Google can remove it from their app stores. The content peddled on Facebook is vile and, as this article points out, dangerous.
TigeriusKirk 6y ago
ISPs can ban it on the consumer end.
- dylan604 6y ago
  for science, we did this at work by blocking facebook at the firewall. the employee's started murmoring about facebook being down, until someone smart enough tried it out on their BYOD. eventually, the mob got large enough and vocal enough that it was forced to be reverted. we wanted to see if productivity would increase with lack of access. however, it actually went down as people stopped working completely to start complaining about the jack booted IT decisions.
RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago
Maybe Intel and AMD could be pressured into not selling them CPUs. You aren’t censorship resistant until you can fab your own chips.
- buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
  While I get that you’re joking, couldn’t Facebook exist for literally decades at their current scale (or near it if stuff breaks) just on the metal they already own?
  - sudosysgen 6y ago
    Or on used chips!
kerng 6y ago
Would be pretty easy for Apple and Google to remove them from stores
- bilbo0s 6y ago
  If they don't moderate better, I'm sure Apple would love to use that as an excuse to remove FB from its stores. If Apple thought they could get away with it, they would. And they probably could get away with it if FB provided them with a solid enough pretext. FB is probably praying that the Inauguration goes off without a hitch, or that's the deathnell for the light content moderation regime of FB.
  - colejohnson66 6y ago
    I’ve reported so many comments that are clearly TOS breaking (such as ones saying it’s ok to be violent against politicians who failed us (or even ones saying one of them should be shot)), but they say they “don’t violate their community standards”. It’s garbage. And when you “appeal”, they say “no, we looked at it again, and it’s still ok”. I’ve given up on hoping FB moderation improves. They need to be smacked down hard. What good is “community standards” if they’re not enforced? Instagram, interestingly, it a lot more heavy handed (still not great though). Joan Cornella[0], who makes surrealist(?) comic strips, has posted on his IG story about his posts being removed for “violence” or whatever. [0]: https://instagram.com/sirjoancornella https://instagram.com/sirjoancornella
    - pstuart 6y ago
      Probably more luck on reporting pictures with nipples.
  - nradov 6y ago
    Nope. Facebook (including Instagram) are huge sales drivers for Apple. Millions of customers buy new devices every year primarily to use those social networks. Apple isn't stupid enough to cut that off just because a tiny minority of people are upset about some fringe Facebook posts.

MR4D 6y ago

Apple and Google could effectively de-platform them in a day.

dylan604 6y ago
could they? their .com site would still work. their .onion site would still work. sure, people would bitch about not having native app any more, but unless Apple/Googs rolled an OS update to block specific .com traffic, then people could still access it via website.
nradov 6y ago
Apple and Google are already facing antitrust action. Politically they can't afford to make an enemy of Facebook right now.

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uniqueid 6y ago

Probably doesn't feel like a good thing when you're hiding under your bed, hoping the angry mob will tire of searching, and move on with their machetes to the next village.

zarkov99 6y ago
Which of the mobs?
- Frondo 6y ago
  He could be referring to how Facebook was used in the Rohingya genocide, which they admitted to over two years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebook.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/06/technology/myanmar-facebo...
  - uniqueid 6y ago
    It was a made-up example. I suppose I combined the Rohingyan and Rwandan genocides. FB had nothing to do with the latter, of course.
    - coeneedell 6y ago
      Unless Zuckerburg has a time machine I'd have to agree with you.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  Any of them. When you're hiding under your bed, it doesn't matter which mob it is.

yostrovs 6y ago

Apple and Google can remove it from their app stores. The content peddled on Facebook is vile and, as this article points out, dangerous.

TigeriusKirk 6y ago

ISPs can ban it on the consumer end.

dylan604 6y ago
for science, we did this at work by blocking facebook at the firewall. the employee's started murmoring about facebook being down, until someone smart enough tried it out on their BYOD. eventually, the mob got large enough and vocal enough that it was forced to be reverted. we wanted to see if productivity would increase with lack of access. however, it actually went down as people stopped working completely to start complaining about the jack booted IT decisions.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago

Maybe Intel and AMD could be pressured into not selling them CPUs. You aren’t censorship resistant until you can fab your own chips.

buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
While I get that you’re joking, couldn’t Facebook exist for literally decades at their current scale (or near it if stuff breaks) just on the metal they already own?
- sudosysgen 6y ago
  Or on used chips!

kerng 6y ago

Would be pretty easy for Apple and Google to remove them from stores

bilbo0s 6y ago
If they don't moderate better, I'm sure Apple would love to use that as an excuse to remove FB from its stores. If Apple thought they could get away with it, they would. And they probably could get away with it if FB provided them with a solid enough pretext. FB is probably praying that the Inauguration goes off without a hitch, or that's the deathnell for the light content moderation regime of FB.
- colejohnson66 6y ago
  I’ve reported so many comments that are clearly TOS breaking (such as ones saying it’s ok to be violent against politicians who failed us (or even ones saying one of them should be shot)), but they say they “don’t violate their community standards”. It’s garbage. And when you “appeal”, they say “no, we looked at it again, and it’s still ok”. I’ve given up on hoping FB moderation improves. They need to be smacked down hard. What good is “community standards” if they’re not enforced? Instagram, interestingly, it a lot more heavy handed (still not great though). Joan Cornella[0], who makes surrealist(?) comic strips, has posted on his IG story about his posts being removed for “violence” or whatever. [0]: https://instagram.com/sirjoancornella https://instagram.com/sirjoancornella
  - pstuart 6y ago
    Probably more luck on reporting pictures with nipples.
- nradov 6y ago
  Nope. Facebook (including Instagram) are huge sales drivers for Apple. Millions of customers buy new devices every year primarily to use those social networks. Apple isn't stupid enough to cut that off just because a tiny minority of people are upset about some fringe Facebook posts.