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I suspect they don't necessarily mean spinning platters. A SATA port also allows the connection of an SSD which is almost always a huge boost in usability over
by hajile 6y ago
I suspect they don't necessarily mean spinning platters. A SATA port also allows the connection of an SSD which is almost always a huge boost in usability over SD slots. The fact that you can add a large platter for a small NAS solution is just a nice option.
I'd far rather see a 2x PCIe port that could be used for whatever you wanted.
- mrweasel 6y agoI would love to see a Micro-ATX og Mini-ITX board with an ARM or RISC-V CPU, with PCIe ports and storage connectors. There are ARM boards, but they're a little pricy.
- brucehoult 6y agohttps://www.crowdsupply.com/sifive/hifive-unmatched https://www.crowdsupply.com/sifive/hifive-unmatched PCIe, 16 GB DDR4, two M.2 (one for storage, one WIFI), quad core 1.5 GHz (same cores as this board, but twice as many)
- unwind 6y agoAt $679, that's more than "a little pricey" to me at least.
- brucehoult 6y agoExisting and shipping at all is the first step. Low price comes later, with volume.
- unwind 6y agoThat makes sense and sounds logical, but (and I'm certainly no historian) didn't the Raspberry Pi debut at a low price?
- imtringued 6y agoThe original Raspberry Pi was based on surplus stock of Broadcom's SoCs. It was a set top box chip that was produced in high volume.
- vhodges 6y agohttps://turingpi.com/v2/ https://turingpi.com/v2/ is coming (soon?!?). Uses 1-4 Pi compute modules.
- tachyonbeam 6y agoI think it's just that most people want to use the Raspberry Pi for toy projects. They're trying to keep the cost down, and to keep the board small. If you want something like micro ATX ARM motherboard, that's a different use case. The large majority of Raspberry Pi users are fine with USB 3.0 ports for I/O.
- tjoff 6y agoMost that are complaining about this just want something reliable. Raspberry pis are very popular as audio streamers, media centers that streams of the network, home automations etc. But all or them greatly suffer from the fact that it can randomly die on you. Which is quite frustrating. The only sensible solution (imho) to this currently is netbooting but it can be a hassle to setup in some cases. An integrated 16GB emmc would do wonders for everything mentioned above.
- bsder 6y agoWe have an alternative to the RPi that has an eMMC. It's called a Beaglebone. And everybody bitches that the board is too expensive.
- hajile 6y agoA PI4 compute unit with 8GB of RAM instead of 1GB (faster, DDR4 instead of DDR3 too) and 32GB eMMC and a quad-core 64-bit CPU with much higher IPC while only costing $90 which is around $50 cheaper than a BeagleBoard AI (the same comparison exists for the Black too). You also get direct PCIe access to do what you want. Beagle just doesn't offer anywhere near the same value.
- bsder 6y agoThe Black compared with the older RPi3. And everybody was always "The RPi3 is cheaper". The conversations always went like this: "Cheaper? So, did you count the SD card you need for the RPi?" "But it's cheaper." "And the special power supply because the RPi power systems suck?" "But it's cheaper." "And the keyboard and monitor because it doesn't run headless over USB?" "But it's cheaper." "... Okay, boss, it's cheaper. Go have fun." And that's before we even start talking about the lousy documentation of the RPi CPU chips. And the fact that the Ethernet was installed over the USB. etc. But the RPi was cheaper. Shrug. The guys at TI learned their lesson. Throw everything off the board and make it cheap--the hackers don't give a shit about anything else.