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the irony of decrying the journalistic pressure to pump out as many articles as possible - resulting in lower quality - and then promoting your own "FAST writin

the irony of decrying the journalistic pressure to pump out as many articles as possible - resulting in lower quality - and then promoting your own "FAST writing guide" after the article

pembrook 6y ago
You can both complain about how a problem was created in the first place, AND sell solutions to help people navigate the problem at the same time. I don't see the issue. What I find ironic, is how much HN despises anybody who tries to make money from their work. There's a bizarre ideal here of the selfless internet "Mother Theresa," who exclusively works on open source projects and only shares things with the world out of passion. You could spend 3 years compiling research on an extremely valuable topic and publish it for free...but if you put a newsletter sign-up form on the page, somebody here will complain about it. Strange, considering HN is hosted by an entrepreneurship incubator.
- amarghose 6y ago
  That attitude here on HN boggles my mind. Almost every person I talk to about this site IRL mentions it. It's a defining feature of the community that no one likes.
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- rubinelli 6y ago
  In this case, the irony comes from selling a product that will probably make the problem worse by teaching people how to pump out articles faster and add to the information glut.
- benlivengood 6y ago
  > You could spend 3 years compiling research on an extremely valuable topic and publish it for free...but if you put a newsletter sign-up form on the page, somebody here will complain about it. I think that comes from biased expectations. Any time I see an ad for something promising to be high quality I am usually disappointed by the actual quality. Conversely when a free thing is linked on HN and upvoted to the front page it is very likely to actually be high quality. Therefore my biased assumption for links on HN is that P(high_quality | asks_for_money) < P(high_quality | totally_free) I haven't recorded enough information to know how badly biased my intuition is.
- inglor_cz 6y ago
  "but if you put a newsletter sign-up form on the page, somebody here will complain about it." I have a freely accessible blog with 3500 subscribers, there is newsletter sign-up form at the bottom of every single article, and I haven't heard a single complaint about it ... people who actually like to read are a lot more reasonable than widely expected. Or perhaps the prevailing culture on HN is very, very different from the wider world.
- rkachowski 6y ago
  The "solution" / service presented by the author would make the problem worse along the lines of the authors argument, that quality is sacrificed for fast article production. Your findings fall apart here.

the irony of decrying the journalistic pressure to pump out as many articles as possible - resulting in lower quality - and then promoting your own "FAST writing guide" after the article

pembrook 6y ago

You can both complain about how a problem was created in the first place, AND sell solutions to help people navigate the problem at the same time. I don't see the issue. What I find ironic, is how much HN despises anybody who tries to make money from their work. There's a bizarre ideal here of the selfless internet "Mother Theresa," who exclusively works on open source projects and only shares things with the world out of passion. You could spend 3 years compiling research on an extremely valuable topic and publish it for free...but if you put a newsletter sign-up form on the page, somebody here will complain about it. Strange, considering HN is hosted by an entrepreneurship incubator.

amarghose 6y ago
That attitude here on HN boggles my mind. Almost every person I talk to about this site IRL mentions it. It's a defining feature of the community that no one likes.
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rubinelli 6y ago
In this case, the irony comes from selling a product that will probably make the problem worse by teaching people how to pump out articles faster and add to the information glut.
benlivengood 6y ago
> You could spend 3 years compiling research on an extremely valuable topic and publish it for free...but if you put a newsletter sign-up form on the page, somebody here will complain about it. I think that comes from biased expectations. Any time I see an ad for something promising to be high quality I am usually disappointed by the actual quality. Conversely when a free thing is linked on HN and upvoted to the front page it is very likely to actually be high quality. Therefore my biased assumption for links on HN is that P(high_quality | asks_for_money) < P(high_quality | totally_free) I haven't recorded enough information to know how badly biased my intuition is.
inglor_cz 6y ago
"but if you put a newsletter sign-up form on the page, somebody here will complain about it." I have a freely accessible blog with 3500 subscribers, there is newsletter sign-up form at the bottom of every single article, and I haven't heard a single complaint about it ... people who actually like to read are a lot more reasonable than widely expected. Or perhaps the prevailing culture on HN is very, very different from the wider world.
rkachowski 6y ago
The "solution" / service presented by the author would make the problem worse along the lines of the authors argument, that quality is sacrificed for fast article production. Your findings fall apart here.