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> "Why do people think their desire to act any way they want supersedes the desire of others to not have to put up with trolls and jerks?" There are two answer

> "Why do people think their desire to act any way they want supersedes the desire of others to not have to put up with trolls and jerks?" There are two answers to this question, a "not nice" answer and a "nice" answer. Answer 1: Because it does. Freedom of speech is more important than "your desire of not putting up with things you dislike"; so yes, the rights of trolls do actually supersede the comfort of the trolled. Answer 2: It doesn't really matter. Just ignore the stupid trolls and go on with your life.

bigiain 6y ago
Freedom of speech is genuinely important. Critical even. But it certainly does not extend to my lounge room, Your right to freedom of speech does not mean you get to act like a troll or jerk in my house, or to expect to be able to behave in ways you think I should "just scroll past". You will be asked to "be nice", and asked to leave if you choose not to (and ejected of you continue and refuse to leave). Your "rights as a troll" do not superseded my comfort in my home. Your (assuming you're in the US) "Freedom Of Speech 1st Amendment" rights mean your government may not pass laws to inhibit your free expression. It does not mean your choice to freely express yourself will be free of consequences (as the well known "yelling 'Fire!" in a theatre" example illustrates), nor does it mean that owners/managers of private spaces are required to put up with your free speech in their venues. Whether an internet forum is closer to a private home or Speaker's Corner in a public park is a good question. But claiming the forum regulars and owners should "Just ignore the stupid trolls and go on with your life." is not the only possible answer to that.
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tremon 6y ago
Freedom of speech does not validate abuse, no matter how you spin it.
- enriquto 6y ago
  I agree. But saying stupid or abhorrent things is not (necessarily) abuse.
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  It doesn't validate it the slightest, but it is a common problem that people claim to be abused if they don't like the content, which results in obvious problems. Minorities profit most significantly from freedom of speech.

bigiain 6y ago

Freedom of speech is genuinely important. Critical even. But it certainly does not extend to my lounge room, Your right to freedom of speech does not mean you get to act like a troll or jerk in my house, or to expect to be able to behave in ways you think I should "just scroll past". You will be asked to "be nice", and asked to leave if you choose not to (and ejected of you continue and refuse to leave). Your "rights as a troll" do not superseded my comfort in my home. Your (assuming you're in the US) "Freedom Of Speech 1st Amendment" rights mean your government may not pass laws to inhibit your free expression. It does not mean your choice to freely express yourself will be free of consequences (as the well known "yelling 'Fire!" in a theatre" example illustrates), nor does it mean that owners/managers of private spaces are required to put up with your free speech in their venues. Whether an internet forum is closer to a private home or Speaker's Corner in a public park is a good question. But claiming the forum regulars and owners should "Just ignore the stupid trolls and go on with your life." is not the only possible answer to that.

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tremon 6y ago

Freedom of speech does not validate abuse, no matter how you spin it.

enriquto 6y ago
I agree. But saying stupid or abhorrent things is not (necessarily) abuse.
raxxorrax 6y ago
It doesn't validate it the slightest, but it is a common problem that people claim to be abused if they don't like the content, which results in obvious problems. Minorities profit most significantly from freedom of speech.