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What he's saying about Parler is easily provable as false: https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/i-have-guns-and-ammo-virtual-trail-left-behind-by-trump-suppor

What he's saying about Parler is easily provable as false: https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/i-have-guns-and-ammo-virtual-trail-left-behind-by-trump-supporters-killed-during-capitol-riot/ https://www.abc4.com/news/top-stories/i-have-guns-and-ammo-v... I used to love Glenn, But I don't know what happened to him after Snowden. He's been an unapologetic hypocritical bootlicker ever since.

freedomben 6y ago
I'm not seeing the contradiction here. Are you suggesting that Greenwald denied that Parler was used for planning/coordination? Perhaps you missed this paragraph? > It is true that one can find postings on Parler that explicitly advocate violence or are otherwise grotesque. But that is even more true of Facebook, Google-owned YouTube, and Twitter. And contrary to what many have been led to believe, Parler’s Terms of Service includes a ban on explicit advocacy of violence, and they employ a team of paid, trained moderators who delete such postings. Those deletions do not happen perfectly or instantaneously — which is why one can find postings that violate those rules — but the same is true of every major Silicon Valley platform.
- brown9-2 6y ago
  Yesterday he was claiming that no one arrested was an active Parler user, he moves the goal posts https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/1349028384110731264?s=21 https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/13490283841107312...
  - sthnblllII 6y ago
    I hadnt even heard of it before it was banned. Dismissing one of the few genuine voices on the left because of a misperception is supercilious. Edit: It looks like Greenwald wasnt even wrong about what he said, people are just accusing him of lying for some reason https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1349097133186707457?s=20 https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1349097133186707457?s=2... Edit: Has the left accomplished all of its goals? No? Then it needs to figure out what its doing wrong.
    - brown9-2 6y ago
      I’m not dismissing him because of one mistake, I dismiss him because the only lens he looks at anything through anymore is how the it’s all actually the left or the media’s fault.
  - g0rbongler 6y ago
    Yeah Greenwald has transformed into a conspiracy-nut / troll since leaving the Intercept and starting his substack.
    - dralley 6y ago
      Looooong before then.
    - sthnblllII 6y ago
      Would you like to make a substantive criticism or just use ad homonym?
      - lern_too_spel 6y ago
        It's ad hominem, and Greenwald has always been incompetent. Just look at his PRISM reporting, which he still hasn't issued a correction for and just never talks about anymore (not a single mention in his pardon rant on Substack) after apparently finally realizing how embarrassingly wrong his reporting was.
        DevKoala 6y ago
        What was wrong about his reporting on PRISM?
        lern_too_spel 6y ago
        It was entirely wrong. The slides he published very clearly showed that it was an integration project with the FBI. The companies sent the FBI data for specific accounts under court order, and that is the only data that PRISM ingested. Greenwald thought the NSA could access arbitrary accounts' data. He could easily have gotten this right (like the New York Times did the very next day and CNET and the rest of the tech media shortly after) if he had bothered to figure out what each piece of the diagrams meant or if he had consulted anybody who understood computers at all instead of just a high school dropout SharePoint admin — you know, journalism. https://images.theconversation.com/files/26668/original/ngwwvrjm-1372732363.jpg https://images.theconversation.com/files/26668/original/ngww... https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/technology/tech-companies-bristling-concede-to-government-surveillance-efforts.html?pagewanted=print https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/technology/tech-companies... https://www.cnet.com/news/no-evidence-of-nsas-direct-access-to-tech-companies/ https://www.cnet.com/news/no-evidence-of-nsas-direct-access-...
  - Acrobatic_Road 6y ago
    Where did he move the goal posts? From the article... >Indeed, a Parler executive told me that of the thirteen people arrested as of Monday for the breach at the Capitol, none appear to be active users of Parler. The Capitol breach was planned far more on Facebook and YouTube The tweet you linked shows a post on parler dated November 16. That's not evidence the poster was an "active user of Parler". In fact, it suggests the opposite. All we know is he made one post in November.
    - dralley 6y ago
      The "viking guy" who has been talked about probably moreso than any other single rioter is and was active on Parler. https://web.archive.org/web/20210106213432/https://parler.com/profile/JakeAngeli/posts https://web.archive.org/web/20210106213432/https://parler.co... https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2021/01/11/jake-angeli-arizona-seen-us-capitol-raid-fur-hat-horns-federal-court-hearing/6625619002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/... So this claim is trivially falsifiable with even the most minimal journalistic effort.
      - Acrobatic_Road 6y ago
        He's not listed as part of the 13 people charged by the DoJ. It's possible that he was arrested later. But Glenn didn't lie here. So the parler exec probably looked at this list, checked to see if any one of these people used his platform, and found none did. Then he told Glenn. However, more people have since been charged. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirteen-charged-federal-court-following-riot-united-states-capitol https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirteen-charged-federal-cour...
        dralley 6y ago
        The entire point was silly to begin with. Why start doing victory laps over the first 13 people? What's so special about them? Nothing.
        6y ago
lupire 6y ago
He's not a "bootlicker". He lost his faith in the US and became (more of) a fan of Russia. (Parler is run by a CEO who married a politically prominent Russian (not Russian-American) spouse with essentially zero ties to the USA.)
- himinlomax 6y ago
  Ah yes, Greenwald is a big fan of Russia and their progressive gay-friendly agenda. "Have you know shame Senator McCarthy"
- DevKoala 6y ago
  Greenwald a fan of Russia is one of the funniest jokes I have heard lately.
  - cwkoss 6y ago
    With the state of American politics today, saying "I don't think we have enough evidence to conclusively tie ____ to Russia" is sufficient evidence for a significant chunk of the population to accuse the speaker of being "in the pocket of Russia". Unfortunately.
- JarlUlvi 6y ago
  Russia Russia Russia is today's Blood Libel. A fabrication to be hung on any adversary as a means to delegitimize them. That you'd claim that a leading journalist writing about Civil Liberties somehow became a fan of Russia is a great example of that, and a disservice to polite discourse.
bsenftner 6y ago
Totally agree, he's become a boot licker.
jakearmitage 6y ago
What? Glenn has done crucial work against Bolsonaro's corruption in Brazil, so much that he's been charged and persecuted with bogus allegations: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/prosecutors-in-brazil-charge-american-journalist-with-cybercrimes-after-lava-jato-revelations/2020/01/21/fd98a5a4-3c6a-11ea-afe2-090eb37b60b1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/prosecutor... https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brazil-sergio-moro-corruption-lato-javo-bolsonaro-intercept-glenn-greenwald-a8982486.html https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brazil-sergio-moro-corr... https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/glenn-greenwald-charged-cybercrimes-brazil-164157228.html https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/glenn-greenwald-charged-... His family has been threatened and he is constantly targeted by the far right in Brazil. How ignorant and naive you must be to call him a bootlicker?
jolincost 6y ago
But his main point is that free speech is curtailed unevenly, which isn't false. You just feel betrayed that he went from criticism government to criticizing corporate, and to calling out the double standards in the culture that protect liberals, and punish conservatives, which as a "tolerant centrist" you should be against. Instead you call him a gimp while it's your attitude that sounds like unapologetic hypocrisy feverishly licking the boots of whoever you're no longer allowed to criticize... As George Carlin (i think) said, that tells you who's in charge and what they fear. I'm sure they thank you for supporting their cause.

freedomben 6y ago

I'm not seeing the contradiction here. Are you suggesting that Greenwald denied that Parler was used for planning/coordination? Perhaps you missed this paragraph? > It is true that one can find postings on Parler that explicitly advocate violence or are otherwise grotesque. But that is even more true of Facebook, Google-owned YouTube, and Twitter. And contrary to what many have been led to believe, Parler’s Terms of Service includes a ban on explicit advocacy of violence, and they employ a team of paid, trained moderators who delete such postings. Those deletions do not happen perfectly or instantaneously — which is why one can find postings that violate those rules — but the same is true of every major Silicon Valley platform.

brown9-2 6y ago
Yesterday he was claiming that no one arrested was an active Parler user, he moves the goal posts https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/1349028384110731264?s=21 https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/13490283841107312...
- sthnblllII 6y ago
  I hadnt even heard of it before it was banned. Dismissing one of the few genuine voices on the left because of a misperception is supercilious. Edit: It looks like Greenwald wasnt even wrong about what he said, people are just accusing him of lying for some reason https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1349097133186707457?s=20 https://twitter.com/evanchill/status/1349097133186707457?s=2... Edit: Has the left accomplished all of its goals? No? Then it needs to figure out what its doing wrong.
  - brown9-2 6y ago
    I’m not dismissing him because of one mistake, I dismiss him because the only lens he looks at anything through anymore is how the it’s all actually the left or the media’s fault.
- g0rbongler 6y ago
  Yeah Greenwald has transformed into a conspiracy-nut / troll since leaving the Intercept and starting his substack.
  - dralley 6y ago
    Looooong before then.
  - sthnblllII 6y ago
    Would you like to make a substantive criticism or just use ad homonym?
    - lern_too_spel 6y ago
      It's ad hominem, and Greenwald has always been incompetent. Just look at his PRISM reporting, which he still hasn't issued a correction for and just never talks about anymore (not a single mention in his pardon rant on Substack) after apparently finally realizing how embarrassingly wrong his reporting was.
      - DevKoala 6y ago
        What was wrong about his reporting on PRISM?
        lern_too_spel 6y ago
        It was entirely wrong. The slides he published very clearly showed that it was an integration project with the FBI. The companies sent the FBI data for specific accounts under court order, and that is the only data that PRISM ingested. Greenwald thought the NSA could access arbitrary accounts' data. He could easily have gotten this right (like the New York Times did the very next day and CNET and the rest of the tech media shortly after) if he had bothered to figure out what each piece of the diagrams meant or if he had consulted anybody who understood computers at all instead of just a high school dropout SharePoint admin — you know, journalism. https://images.theconversation.com/files/26668/original/ngwwvrjm-1372732363.jpg https://images.theconversation.com/files/26668/original/ngww... https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/technology/tech-companies-bristling-concede-to-government-surveillance-efforts.html?pagewanted=print https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/technology/tech-companies... https://www.cnet.com/news/no-evidence-of-nsas-direct-access-to-tech-companies/ https://www.cnet.com/news/no-evidence-of-nsas-direct-access-...
- Acrobatic_Road 6y ago
  Where did he move the goal posts? From the article... >Indeed, a Parler executive told me that of the thirteen people arrested as of Monday for the breach at the Capitol, none appear to be active users of Parler. The Capitol breach was planned far more on Facebook and YouTube The tweet you linked shows a post on parler dated November 16. That's not evidence the poster was an "active user of Parler". In fact, it suggests the opposite. All we know is he made one post in November.
  - dralley 6y ago
    The "viking guy" who has been talked about probably moreso than any other single rioter is and was active on Parler. https://web.archive.org/web/20210106213432/https://parler.com/profile/JakeAngeli/posts https://web.archive.org/web/20210106213432/https://parler.co... https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2021/01/11/jake-angeli-arizona-seen-us-capitol-raid-fur-hat-horns-federal-court-hearing/6625619002/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/... So this claim is trivially falsifiable with even the most minimal journalistic effort.
    - Acrobatic_Road 6y ago
      He's not listed as part of the 13 people charged by the DoJ. It's possible that he was arrested later. But Glenn didn't lie here. So the parler exec probably looked at this list, checked to see if any one of these people used his platform, and found none did. Then he told Glenn. However, more people have since been charged. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirteen-charged-federal-court-following-riot-united-states-capitol https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirteen-charged-federal-cour...
      - dralley 6y ago
        The entire point was silly to begin with. Why start doing victory laps over the first 13 people? What's so special about them? Nothing.
        6y ago

lupire 6y ago

He's not a "bootlicker". He lost his faith in the US and became (more of) a fan of Russia. (Parler is run by a CEO who married a politically prominent Russian (not Russian-American) spouse with essentially zero ties to the USA.)

himinlomax 6y ago
Ah yes, Greenwald is a big fan of Russia and their progressive gay-friendly agenda. "Have you know shame Senator McCarthy"
DevKoala 6y ago
Greenwald a fan of Russia is one of the funniest jokes I have heard lately.
- cwkoss 6y ago
  With the state of American politics today, saying "I don't think we have enough evidence to conclusively tie ____ to Russia" is sufficient evidence for a significant chunk of the population to accuse the speaker of being "in the pocket of Russia". Unfortunately.
JarlUlvi 6y ago
Russia Russia Russia is today's Blood Libel. A fabrication to be hung on any adversary as a means to delegitimize them. That you'd claim that a leading journalist writing about Civil Liberties somehow became a fan of Russia is a great example of that, and a disservice to polite discourse.

bsenftner 6y ago

Totally agree, he's become a boot licker.

jakearmitage 6y ago

What? Glenn has done crucial work against Bolsonaro's corruption in Brazil, so much that he's been charged and persecuted with bogus allegations: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/prosecutors-in-brazil-charge-american-journalist-with-cybercrimes-after-lava-jato-revelations/2020/01/21/fd98a5a4-3c6a-11ea-afe2-090eb37b60b1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/prosecutor... https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brazil-sergio-moro-corruption-lato-javo-bolsonaro-intercept-glenn-greenwald-a8982486.html https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brazil-sergio-moro-corr... https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/glenn-greenwald-charged-cybercrimes-brazil-164157228.html https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/glenn-greenwald-charged-... His family has been threatened and he is constantly targeted by the far right in Brazil. How ignorant and naive you must be to call him a bootlicker?

jolincost 6y ago

But his main point is that free speech is curtailed unevenly, which isn't false. You just feel betrayed that he went from criticism government to criticizing corporate, and to calling out the double standards in the culture that protect liberals, and punish conservatives, which as a "tolerant centrist" you should be against. Instead you call him a gimp while it's your attitude that sounds like unapologetic hypocrisy feverishly licking the boots of whoever you're no longer allowed to criticize... As George Carlin (i think) said, that tells you who's in charge and what they fear. I'm sure they thank you for supporting their cause.