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I suppose I haven't read definitive literature on the topic to be convinced but can you not catch it again, especially a different strain? It still feels awful

by vecinu 6y ago

I suppose I haven't read definitive literature on the topic to be convinced but can you not catch it again, especially a different strain? It still feels awfully risky to travel at the moment.

oblio 6y ago
The anecdotal evidence I have says that you can be reinfected. I don't know if it was with different strains, but it's still troubling.
- rootusrootus 6y ago
  The anecdotal evidence says that a small number of people have been reinfected, out of millions. Statistically, the average person is likely immune for at least a matter of months, probably a couple years or more.
  - jedberg 6y ago
    It's still not clear if a previous infection stops you from being an asymptomatic carrier, and we don't want more asymptomatic carriers.
    - timr 6y ago
      > It's still not clear if a previous infection stops you from being an asymptomatic carrier, and we don't want more asymptomatic carriers. It's as clear as it is for any other viral disease. For example, to my knowledge, nobody has ever done any kind of systematic study of whether or not infection with influenza protects you against asymptomatic reinfection with the same strain. This is a level of paranoia that is unique to this particular virus.
      - jacobolus 6y ago
        > level of paranoia that is unique to this particular virus This particular virus is >5x deadlier than seasonal flu, is significantly more contagious, and nobody has any pre-existing immunity. Despite strong countermeasures, almost half a million people in the USA have died from the pandemic so far, and by the time we are through that number could potentially double. It is the worst infectious disease threat since the 1918 flu (thankfully not quite as deadly as that one, given modern medical care).
        timr 6y ago
        > It is the worst infectious disease threat since the 1918 flu. Well, no, actually. This virus is roughly on par with the 1957 pandemic in terms of IFR and per-capita fatality rate: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemi... Regardless, as I said before, demanding that some kind of study be provided to prove that asymptomatic infection is prevented by natural immunity is so far beyond what we know about any other virus that it borders on the hysterical.
        jacobolus 6y ago
        This virus is significantly worse than the 1957 or 1968 flu, causing many more hospitalizations and deaths despite much stronger countermeasures. But those two were indeed quite deadly, worse than seasonal flu, and if a similar flu emerges in the future it should be treated extremely seriously. Hopefully we can learn from our severe systematic mistakes in the Covid pandemic to better prepare for and react to future pandemics of flu and other pathogens.
        logicchains 6y ago
        >This virus is significantly worse than the 1957 or 1968 flu Evidence please? The person you're replying to actually posted a CDC link.
        jacobolus 6y ago
  - m4rtink 6y ago
    It's definitely a thing - a couple days ago I've read an article where they did interviews with three people who got reinfected here in Czech Republic. It also mentioned a fourth person who unfortunately died due to being infected for the second time. So even for a country with just 10 millions of people you can still find enough people who had covid twice to interview - how we fucked up the second and third wave notwithstanding.

by vecinu 6y ago

I suppose I haven't read definitive literature on the topic to be convinced but can you not catch it again, especially a different strain? It still feels awfully risky to travel at the moment.

oblio 6y ago

The anecdotal evidence I have says that you can be reinfected. I don't know if it was with different strains, but it's still troubling.

rootusrootus 6y ago
The anecdotal evidence says that a small number of people have been reinfected, out of millions. Statistically, the average person is likely immune for at least a matter of months, probably a couple years or more.
- jedberg 6y ago
  It's still not clear if a previous infection stops you from being an asymptomatic carrier, and we don't want more asymptomatic carriers.
  - timr 6y ago
    > It's still not clear if a previous infection stops you from being an asymptomatic carrier, and we don't want more asymptomatic carriers. It's as clear as it is for any other viral disease. For example, to my knowledge, nobody has ever done any kind of systematic study of whether or not infection with influenza protects you against asymptomatic reinfection with the same strain. This is a level of paranoia that is unique to this particular virus.
    - jacobolus 6y ago
      > level of paranoia that is unique to this particular virus This particular virus is >5x deadlier than seasonal flu, is significantly more contagious, and nobody has any pre-existing immunity. Despite strong countermeasures, almost half a million people in the USA have died from the pandemic so far, and by the time we are through that number could potentially double. It is the worst infectious disease threat since the 1918 flu (thankfully not quite as deadly as that one, given modern medical care).
      - timr 6y ago
        > It is the worst infectious disease threat since the 1918 flu. Well, no, actually. This virus is roughly on par with the 1957 pandemic in terms of IFR and per-capita fatality rate: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemic.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1957-1958-pandemi... Regardless, as I said before, demanding that some kind of study be provided to prove that asymptomatic infection is prevented by natural immunity is so far beyond what we know about any other virus that it borders on the hysterical.
        jacobolus 6y ago
        This virus is significantly worse than the 1957 or 1968 flu, causing many more hospitalizations and deaths despite much stronger countermeasures. But those two were indeed quite deadly, worse than seasonal flu, and if a similar flu emerges in the future it should be treated extremely seriously. Hopefully we can learn from our severe systematic mistakes in the Covid pandemic to better prepare for and react to future pandemics of flu and other pathogens.
        logicchains 6y ago
        >This virus is significantly worse than the 1957 or 1968 flu Evidence please? The person you're replying to actually posted a CDC link.
        jacobolus 6y ago
- m4rtink 6y ago
  It's definitely a thing - a couple days ago I've read an article where they did interviews with three people who got reinfected here in Czech Republic. It also mentioned a fourth person who unfortunately died due to being infected for the second time. So even for a country with just 10 millions of people you can still find enough people who had covid twice to interview - how we fucked up the second and third wave notwithstanding.