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I hate it when people hide behind the brand. The reputation of people working there still is damaged, screw the brand.
by thiscatis 6y ago
I hate it when people hide behind the brand. The reputation of people working there still is damaged, screw the brand.
- greysteil 6y agoPeople are more than the company they work for. Be careful not to be reductionist by judging them too much on it.
- messick 6y agoI’m 100% absolutely judging anyone still taking a paycheck from FB in this day and age. It speaks volumes about their character.
- TomSwirly 6y agoSo the people aren't responsible. But "Facebook", being a corporation and not a human, has no moral or ethical basis at all and exists entirely to make money. So by this calculus, all guilt, blame and responsibility is just waved away. They're only following orders, all the way to the top, where management are simply rationally trying to maximize revenue for stockholders, who also have no liability. Using the Greysteil Graywashing System™, any crime may be committed and no one is ever held responsible!
- jader201 6y agoYour response is hyperbole. Why does it have to be all or nothing? Just because not everyone should be held accountable for a large company’s decisions, doesn’t mean that no one should be. Maybe someone sees it as an opportunity to learn from the talent around them, or enjoys the small piece that they’re working on. But not everyone in a company that is less than favorable with a given population should be judged equally.
- sincerely 6y agoAh, the 21st century version of "I was just following orders"
- esoterica 6y agoThe 21st century version of Godwin’s law is still Godwin’s law, it seems.
- cutitout 6y agoGodwin's law just says that as the length of a discussion increases, the probability of a nazi comparison approaches 1. It says nothing about that even being a problem, much less losing the argument. Even better: as the length of a discussion increases, the probability of any comparison, any string of words, any combination of letters, "approaches 1". Something you can say about anything you might as well say about nothing. People heard the meme a lot, so they think it has weight without actually having thought about it. Encouraging people to reveal this about themselves, with pride no less, is the singular useful property GL has.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> The reputation of people working there still is damaged Most people need a job in order to continue to eat and to buy shoes for their children. They can't just quit. I don't judge anyone for working the job they can get.
- johannes1234321 6y agoThat is probably true for the Janitor. It's less true for the (non-entry level) engineer there. They not only have other choices, but also are implementing the policies.
- chrisseaton 6y ago> They not only have other choices This is the problem with tech interviewing - it's so incredibly fickle that even someone with a senior job at a prestigious place doing practical work may not be able to pass an abstract problem-solving whiteboard interview somewhere else.
- eropple 6y agoThat senior developer at a "prestigious place" can find a job that'll pay the bills, though, without working at A Name You've Heard Of. They have other choices; they just might not be choices that are as cool. (Darn?)
- johannes1234321 6y agoIf they consider Facebook cool, they don't seem to have an ethics issue with Facebook in the first place ... (And yeah, some of the Tech they do is cool and there are only few places with such demand for technical solutions for that large scale of operation, but there's cool tech elsewhere as well)
- rglullis 6y agoExactly. It's funny how you can "/s/Facebook/RedTube" and the principle still works.