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'More' independent overview: https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ i recommend Wickr Me. Its free, Privacy friendly and (a

'More' independent overview: https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ i recommend Wickr Me. Its free, Privacy friendly and (almost) stable.

rvieira 6y ago
Why isn't Keybase included in most of these matrices? Is it related to some kind of "messaging" definition?
- sanqui 6y ago
  While I put high hopes in Keybase and the chat was solid, it's a zombie app at this point. The project came to a halt when they got acquired by Zoom, as evidenced by [1]. [1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/contributors https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/contributors
  - phreack 6y ago
    The writing was on the wall the moment the acquisition was announced, and we all grieved about it, but it still makes me very sad to see such a graph. I miss Keybase.
1_player 6y ago
What's with Wickr? I never heard of it until yesterday, when a message out of the blue on Reddit asked me why am I not using it (with the excuse that I said I didn't like it, which is false), and now this poster with no comment history. Probably confirmation bias so I'll bite. It's not open source, collects some data, it's a for-profit company. Why would I use it?
- sorenjan 6y ago
  The only time I've seen it used has been by people looking to buy drugs. It's so closely related that a single "wickr?" post on social media is basically synonymous with drug deals.
  - ShockedUnicorn 6y ago
    This post is actually the first time I've heard about wickr online. I have seen it spray painted everywhere in my city tho, something like: "wickr: randomusername HQ 420"
- EtiusPrime 6y ago
  well, there are some reasons for [1][2], it also was on HN before too [3]. I came up to it as i was looking for an alternate which is free, real end-to-end encryption (not just to the server) and doesn't need your or any phone number to create an account. There is a payed Version (obviously for professional occasions) and also a Desktop Version. So all in all a great Package. I suppose it makes money through it payed Version. (havn't checked that, just assume it) It promisses not to steal data and says its not possible by design.[4] [1] https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2020/01/23/deployed-82nd-airborne-unit-told-to-use-these-encrypted-messaging-apps-on-government-cellphones/#.XinQapgtOkY.twitter https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2020/01/23/deploye... [2]https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ [3]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129436 [4]https://medium.com/cryptoblog/the-untrusted-server-19aff573ca7c https://medium.com/cryptoblog/the-untrusted-server-19aff573c...

'More' independent overview: https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ i recommend Wickr Me. Its free, Privacy friendly and (almost) stable.

rvieira 6y ago

Why isn't Keybase included in most of these matrices? Is it related to some kind of "messaging" definition?

sanqui 6y ago
While I put high hopes in Keybase and the chat was solid, it's a zombie app at this point. The project came to a halt when they got acquired by Zoom, as evidenced by [1]. [1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/contributors https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/contributors
- phreack 6y ago
  The writing was on the wall the moment the acquisition was announced, and we all grieved about it, but it still makes me very sad to see such a graph. I miss Keybase.

1_player 6y ago

What's with Wickr? I never heard of it until yesterday, when a message out of the blue on Reddit asked me why am I not using it (with the excuse that I said I didn't like it, which is false), and now this poster with no comment history. Probably confirmation bias so I'll bite. It's not open source, collects some data, it's a for-profit company. Why would I use it?

sorenjan 6y ago
The only time I've seen it used has been by people looking to buy drugs. It's so closely related that a single "wickr?" post on social media is basically synonymous with drug deals.
- ShockedUnicorn 6y ago
  This post is actually the first time I've heard about wickr online. I have seen it spray painted everywhere in my city tho, something like: "wickr: randomusername HQ 420"
EtiusPrime 6y ago
well, there are some reasons for [1][2], it also was on HN before too [3]. I came up to it as i was looking for an alternate which is free, real end-to-end encryption (not just to the server) and doesn't need your or any phone number to create an account. There is a payed Version (obviously for professional occasions) and also a Desktop Version. So all in all a great Package. I suppose it makes money through it payed Version. (havn't checked that, just assume it) It promisses not to steal data and says its not possible by design.[4] [1] https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2020/01/23/deployed-82nd-airborne-unit-told-to-use-these-encrypted-messaging-apps-on-government-cellphones/#.XinQapgtOkY.twitter https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2020/01/23/deploye... [2]https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ [3]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129436 [4]https://medium.com/cryptoblog/the-untrusted-server-19aff573ca7c https://medium.com/cryptoblog/the-untrusted-server-19aff573c...