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People really need to understand that democracy and free world begins and ends with America. There’s no backstop. If the US falls there’s absolutely no one else

People really need to understand that democracy and free world begins and ends with America. There’s no backstop. If the US falls there’s absolutely no one else out there to stop Russia and China from taking over. This is not fear mongering. It’s a simple calculus based on nuclear weapons. So while this may look like relatively harmless political games being played, it’s a lot more careless and dangerous than we are led to believe.

dkjaudyeqooe 6y ago
It's not fear mongering, but it's probably a bit hysterical. One has to take a contrarian view of one's own anxieties: this is all good for the republic, because it snaps people out of their complacency. Complacency is what gave us Trump in the first place. The "it'll never happen" attitude pretty much guarantees that at some point someone will purposely or accidentally benefit from it. Now that the cat is out of the bag people are very focused on the issue at hand, which is good. To believe America will "fall" you have to believe that there is, or there soon could be, a majority of people who believe in dismantling democracy and abandoning the constitution. If that is the case then America has already fallen.
- chii 6y ago
  > Complacency is what gave us Trump in the first place. no, it's not just complacency. In the 2016 vote, he did get a lot of the popular votes (even tho hilary got more). That's a sign that a lot of people in the US do agree with his world view - whether they understand that it's just retoric trump is throwing to get votes, or they do truly feel it, is moot. Trump _only_ got into power because there's enough people in the USA to get him into power. This isn't a case of a one time bad president - it's the psyche of a nation.
- WannaFly 6y ago
  Democracy is why America has already fallen. "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government". When people asked, "What have you given as Mr.Franklin?" He said, "A REPUBLIC. IF YOU CAN KEEP IT". What if, I am and my friend will decide to beat you up and steal your stuff? It's bad, isn't it? But what if we outvote you and send a senator to steal your stuff, why is this ok? The wealthiest country in the world was built by freedom and supremacy of people's rights (Life, Liberty, Property, Pursuit of Happiness). None of that exists anymore, America has Democrats(Left) and Republicans(they actually Democrats, today JFK would be Republican).

dkjaudyeqooe 6y ago

It's not fear mongering, but it's probably a bit hysterical. One has to take a contrarian view of one's own anxieties: this is all good for the republic, because it snaps people out of their complacency. Complacency is what gave us Trump in the first place. The "it'll never happen" attitude pretty much guarantees that at some point someone will purposely or accidentally benefit from it. Now that the cat is out of the bag people are very focused on the issue at hand, which is good. To believe America will "fall" you have to believe that there is, or there soon could be, a majority of people who believe in dismantling democracy and abandoning the constitution. If that is the case then America has already fallen.

chii 6y ago
> Complacency is what gave us Trump in the first place. no, it's not just complacency. In the 2016 vote, he did get a lot of the popular votes (even tho hilary got more). That's a sign that a lot of people in the US do agree with his world view - whether they understand that it's just retoric trump is throwing to get votes, or they do truly feel it, is moot. Trump _only_ got into power because there's enough people in the USA to get him into power. This isn't a case of a one time bad president - it's the psyche of a nation.
WannaFly 6y ago
Democracy is why America has already fallen. "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government". When people asked, "What have you given as Mr.Franklin?" He said, "A REPUBLIC. IF YOU CAN KEEP IT". What if, I am and my friend will decide to beat you up and steal your stuff? It's bad, isn't it? But what if we outvote you and send a senator to steal your stuff, why is this ok? The wealthiest country in the world was built by freedom and supremacy of people's rights (Life, Liberty, Property, Pursuit of Happiness). None of that exists anymore, America has Democrats(Left) and Republicans(they actually Democrats, today JFK would be Republican).