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I think it is possible to secure yourself against a devoted, persistent threat group. I think it's expensive, but possible. Do you have data to back up your c
by sounds 6y ago
I think it is possible to secure yourself against a devoted, persistent threat group.
I think it's expensive, but possible.
Do you have data to back up your claim that no one, ever has ever successfully remained secure?
- not2b 6y agoNo one could possibly prove this kind of negative.
- snoshy 6y agoWhy not? All you have to do is point to one particular company whose systems have not been verifiably breached after having resisted actual attempts.
- someguydave 6y agomost attacker groups would be unlikely to share that result
- imoverclocked 6y agoChallenge accepted? Just because known attempts have failed doesn’t mean the unknown ones have too.
- WaitWaitWha 6y ago> one particular company whose systems have not been verifiably breached The unknown unknown. How can you be sure all the "resisted actual attempts" been even detected?
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- not2b 6y agoYou've changed the requirement. To prove a company hasn't been breached, you'd also have to prove that there hasn't been a breach that hasn't been detected (so breached, but not verified). Any given target might already be quietly owned by some state actor or corrupt insider with allies on the outside.
- justinclift 6y agoSeveral places probably would have met those goals... ... right up until the SolarWinds hack became public. The point being, provable "we've never been breached" seems to have a way of turning out to be wrong. :/
- swirepe 6y agoMy name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
- rodgerd 6y agoWhat evidence do you have that anyone has?
- ikiris 6y agoWhen was the last time you heard of a google user data breach?
- rodgerd 6y agohttps://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2018/10/09/google-plus-breach-what-happened-who-was-impacted-and-how-to-delete-your-account/?sh=75faf8ef6491 https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2018/10/09/goog... https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/googlers-say-f-you-to-nsa-company-encrypts-internal-network/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/googl... Maybe you should know literally anything about the topic at hand before making sweeping assertions? I realise that's asking a lot here at HN, but it would improve the site a lot.
- harrierpigeon 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Google_data_breach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Google_data_breach https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1372333/Gmail-hacked-Google-down-latest-update-security-data-breach-server-error-news-vn https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1372333/Gmail-hacked-Googl... Not unheard of at Google, either.