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You're silenced by moderators or you're silenced by users. I don't see much difference in the end.

lc9er 6y ago
The difference is that the community observed your opinion and decided it provided no value. That could be a pro or con, based on many factors.
rootusrootus 6y ago
There's a huge difference. The freedom to disagree is a fundamental part of free speech. The very fact that you get a big response from the community means you are definitely being heard. They just don't agree with you. When moderators do it, nobody even sees what you are saying.
jimbokun 6y ago
Comments "silenced" by users can generally still be found by sorting by "controversial".
Lutger 6y ago
Not being listened to is very different from being silenced.
- malandrew 6y ago
  If the first few people to see something downvotes you into oblivion before the majority arriving later get a chance to see your content, that's silencing, not merely not being listened to. This is doubly true when those first few people are likely to be regulars that refresh pages often. This means that a few people that are ideologically on the same page can drive the ideological view of an entire forum without actually being a moderator.
pixl97 6y ago
Then you are lost.
baby 6y ago
I think you’re commenting without having tried to post on r/conservative
jandrese 6y ago
Have you ever considered the notion that maybe your views are unpopular? Possibly even misinformed? Maybe if everyone disagrees with something you say, it's not the rest of the world's fault? Are you Principal Skinner going "Am I so out of touch? No, it is the children who are wrong."
- Zuider 6y ago
  This can go both ways. A majority view may be held complacently without being challenged much or often. A minority view encounters constant resistance and reminders that it is not held by many, and may potentially be more robust because of that. Either way, a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning rather than group pressure, and even the most strongly held position ought to be held provisionally and subject to revision in the light of human fallibility.
  - shuntress 6y ago
    >a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning Sounds good but what happens when a loud group bases their beliefs on alternative facts (and select only alternative facts that specifically support their belief)?
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning What is the basis for this belief?
collyw 6y ago
Tell that to the moderators of /r/anarchism, they are very ban happy and seem to relish the power.

The difference is that the community observed your opinion and decided it provided no value. That could be a pro or con, based on many factors.

rootusrootus 6y ago

There's a huge difference. The freedom to disagree is a fundamental part of free speech. The very fact that you get a big response from the community means you are definitely being heard. They just don't agree with you. When moderators do it, nobody even sees what you are saying.

jimbokun 6y ago

Comments "silenced" by users can generally still be found by sorting by "controversial".

Lutger 6y ago

Not being listened to is very different from being silenced.

malandrew 6y ago
If the first few people to see something downvotes you into oblivion before the majority arriving later get a chance to see your content, that's silencing, not merely not being listened to. This is doubly true when those first few people are likely to be regulars that refresh pages often. This means that a few people that are ideologically on the same page can drive the ideological view of an entire forum without actually being a moderator.

pixl97 6y ago

Then you are lost.

baby 6y ago

I think you’re commenting without having tried to post on r/conservative

jandrese 6y ago

Have you ever considered the notion that maybe your views are unpopular? Possibly even misinformed? Maybe if everyone disagrees with something you say, it's not the rest of the world's fault? Are you Principal Skinner going "Am I so out of touch? No, it is the children who are wrong."

Zuider 6y ago
This can go both ways. A majority view may be held complacently without being challenged much or often. A minority view encounters constant resistance and reminders that it is not held by many, and may potentially be more robust because of that. Either way, a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning rather than group pressure, and even the most strongly held position ought to be held provisionally and subject to revision in the light of human fallibility.
- shuntress 6y ago
  >a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning Sounds good but what happens when a loud group bases their beliefs on alternative facts (and select only alternative facts that specifically support their belief)?
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > a belief ought to be based on facts and sound reasoning What is the basis for this belief?

collyw 6y ago

Tell that to the moderators of /r/anarchism, they are very ban happy and seem to relish the power.