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The guy in the fur hat was arrested and had a Parler. This isn't hard. The majority of people arrested had Parler accounts -- it's everywhere.

caminocorner 6y ago
> The guy in the fur hat was arrested and had a Parler. I can't find evidence of this. Could you share your evidence? Greenwald did significant research here and said he found no active users from those arrested: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293
- jakelazaroff 6y ago
  Glenn is either terrible at research or lying. https://twitter.com/azforeman/status/1348648808390008832?s=21 https://twitter.com/azforeman/status/1348648808390008832?s=2... Google “baked alaska parler”. It’s literally on the first page of results.
  - caminocorner 6y ago
    Thanks for the image. Do you know if the account was active or unused? I guess that's why Glenn said "were active users" and not "were users".
    - jakelazaroff 6y ago
      Hard to tell now that it’s down. But I find it pretty hard to trust him on this. One, it’s been fairly well documented that people were organizing the attack on Parler [1]. And two, as I mentioned elsewhere in the thread, there’s the obvious loophole that many who participated in the attack simply haven’t been arrested at all. [1] https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/08/far-right-insurrectionists-organized-capitol-siege-parler https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/08/far-right-ins...
  - kortex 6y ago
    Also, here are some screen grabs of Kevin Greeson, who likely would have been arrested, but had a heart attack from what I have heard termed "insurrectionary excitement" Also what does it matter if Jan 6 was not planned on parler? Jan 17th and inauguration shenanigans were being planned there until the site got yanked. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/man-who-died-capitol-riot-parler-extremist-content/ https://www.dailydot.com/debug/man-who-died-capitol-riot-par...
  - tedivm 6y ago
    Glenn is hiding behind the "were arrested" phrasing, so despite the fact that baked alaska has a parler account and was literally livestreaming from the capital he doesn't count in Glenn's opinion as he hasn't been arrested yet. What Glenn is saying is technically true, but also complete garbage. It's meant to fool people who can't do the minimum levels of research. https://www.insider.com/washington-dc-protest-livestream-baked-alaska-us-capitol-riot-trump-2021-1 https://www.insider.com/washington-dc-protest-livestream-bak...
    - jakelazaroff 6y ago
      Ah yes, good point. I mentioned that elsewhere in the thread… but I guess I forgot when I started doing my own research, because the notion that you could livestream your participation in a terrorist attack at the Capitol and not get arrested immediately is absolutely bananas.
    - meekmockmook 6y ago
      I hope Baked Alaska is arrested.
ed25519FUUU 6y ago
How many protesters arrested in the 2020 Summer protests had a twitter account?
- CyanLite2 6y ago
  There's a big difference between protesting and domestic terrorism.
  - meekmockmook 6y ago
    Tell that to my favorite ice cream shop that was smashed to bits on Melrose. Or the synagogues on Fairfax that were defiled. Or the vehicles all over DTLA that were set on fire. Or the man who died of smoke inhalation in a Minneapolis shop because he couldn't escape the flames. At least 19 people died last summer. Don't downplay it.
    - wyre 6y ago
      That is not equatable with breaking into a national building with the intent to kidnap or kill. MAGA bludgeoned a Capitol Police Officer to death. Last summer doesn’t compare.
      - tanseydavid 6y ago
        >> Last summer doesn’t compare. You can state this opinion as fact but I think it is important to acknowledge that many people experienced the events of last summer in a way that makes it quite comparable to them.
      - swebs 6y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_David_Dorn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_David_Dorn https://www.voanews.com/usa/race-america/antifa-protester-implicated-killing-trump-supporter-oregon https://www.voanews.com/usa/race-america/antifa-protester-im...
  - swebs 6y ago
tpoacher 6y ago
I bet they also have Facebook accounts though. I bet they even have Gmail. They might even have Amazon and Ebay accounts.
Nacdor 6y ago
Hard to confirm at the moment with Parler gone, but all the stories I've found seem to indicate he was mostly active on Twitter. I think a more interesting (and neutral) approach for Greenwald to take would be to show that all of these prominent figures were most likely active on ALL social media platforms, yet only Parler has been singled out.
tanseydavid 6y ago
>> The majority of people arrested had Parler accounts -- it's everywhere. Do you want to bet on what percentage of them own Smart Phones? I would wager 100%.

caminocorner 6y ago

> The guy in the fur hat was arrested and had a Parler. I can't find evidence of this. Could you share your evidence? Greenwald did significant research here and said he found no active users from those arrested: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293

jakelazaroff 6y ago
Glenn is either terrible at research or lying. https://twitter.com/azforeman/status/1348648808390008832?s=21 https://twitter.com/azforeman/status/1348648808390008832?s=2... Google “baked alaska parler”. It’s literally on the first page of results.
- caminocorner 6y ago
  Thanks for the image. Do you know if the account was active or unused? I guess that's why Glenn said "were active users" and not "were users".
  - jakelazaroff 6y ago
    Hard to tell now that it’s down. But I find it pretty hard to trust him on this. One, it’s been fairly well documented that people were organizing the attack on Parler [1]. And two, as I mentioned elsewhere in the thread, there’s the obvious loophole that many who participated in the attack simply haven’t been arrested at all. [1] https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/08/far-right-insurrectionists-organized-capitol-siege-parler https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2021/01/08/far-right-ins...
- kortex 6y ago
  Also, here are some screen grabs of Kevin Greeson, who likely would have been arrested, but had a heart attack from what I have heard termed "insurrectionary excitement" Also what does it matter if Jan 6 was not planned on parler? Jan 17th and inauguration shenanigans were being planned there until the site got yanked. https://www.dailydot.com/debug/man-who-died-capitol-riot-parler-extremist-content/ https://www.dailydot.com/debug/man-who-died-capitol-riot-par...
- tedivm 6y ago
  Glenn is hiding behind the "were arrested" phrasing, so despite the fact that baked alaska has a parler account and was literally livestreaming from the capital he doesn't count in Glenn's opinion as he hasn't been arrested yet. What Glenn is saying is technically true, but also complete garbage. It's meant to fool people who can't do the minimum levels of research. https://www.insider.com/washington-dc-protest-livestream-baked-alaska-us-capitol-riot-trump-2021-1 https://www.insider.com/washington-dc-protest-livestream-bak...
  - jakelazaroff 6y ago
    Ah yes, good point. I mentioned that elsewhere in the thread… but I guess I forgot when I started doing my own research, because the notion that you could livestream your participation in a terrorist attack at the Capitol and not get arrested immediately is absolutely bananas.
  - meekmockmook 6y ago
    I hope Baked Alaska is arrested.

ed25519FUUU 6y ago

How many protesters arrested in the 2020 Summer protests had a twitter account?

CyanLite2 6y ago
There's a big difference between protesting and domestic terrorism.
- meekmockmook 6y ago
  Tell that to my favorite ice cream shop that was smashed to bits on Melrose. Or the synagogues on Fairfax that were defiled. Or the vehicles all over DTLA that were set on fire. Or the man who died of smoke inhalation in a Minneapolis shop because he couldn't escape the flames. At least 19 people died last summer. Don't downplay it.
  - wyre 6y ago
    That is not equatable with breaking into a national building with the intent to kidnap or kill. MAGA bludgeoned a Capitol Police Officer to death. Last summer doesn’t compare.
    - tanseydavid 6y ago
      >> Last summer doesn’t compare. You can state this opinion as fact but I think it is important to acknowledge that many people experienced the events of last summer in a way that makes it quite comparable to them.
    - swebs 6y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_David_Dorn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_David_Dorn https://www.voanews.com/usa/race-america/antifa-protester-implicated-killing-trump-supporter-oregon https://www.voanews.com/usa/race-america/antifa-protester-im...
- swebs 6y ago

tpoacher 6y ago

I bet they also have Facebook accounts though. I bet they even have Gmail. They might even have Amazon and Ebay accounts.

Nacdor 6y ago

Hard to confirm at the moment with Parler gone, but all the stories I've found seem to indicate he was mostly active on Twitter. I think a more interesting (and neutral) approach for Greenwald to take would be to show that all of these prominent figures were most likely active on ALL social media platforms, yet only Parler has been singled out.

tanseydavid 6y ago

>> The majority of people arrested had Parler accounts -- it's everywhere. Do you want to bet on what percentage of them own Smart Phones? I would wager 100%.