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Sounds cool. This could be a way to put older devices to use for some of the things (certainly not all) that a Raspberry Pi is used for. The lack of any physica

Sounds cool. This could be a way to put older devices to use for some of the things (certainly not all) that a Raspberry Pi is used for. The lack of any physical ports for expansion is a big drawback, but the processors are a lot more capable than typical SBCs (single board computers).

Nextgrid 6y ago
Older phones definitely beat Raspberry Pis on both price and features. For barely the same price as a Pi + a decent SD card you get the equivalent of a Pi + a touchscreen, internal NAND, mobile networking, GPS, sound (speaker & mic), a battery backup with built-in charging circuitry and accelerometer/gyroscope sensors.
- ta988 6y ago
  You don't get the GPIO, external display, many usbs, Ethernet, now pcie if you solder a bit etc... Not really equivalent
  - SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
    You could get all that with the usb port. I have certainly tried plugging a USB OTG cable in to a usb to ethernet cable in to a pixel phone and it actually worked and had a special icon for ether net
    - segfaultbuserr 6y ago
      Yes, but nowhere near the performance of GbE, PCI-E, or even USB 3.0 for an iPhone.
      - SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
        I doubt many raspberry pi projects need any of that. You could run a basic web server on an iphone just fine or plug it in to your model car to control using a lightning to usb adapter.
        segfaultbuserr 6y ago
        > plug it in to your model car to control using a lightning to usb adapter. You'll need GPIOs, and iPhone doesn't have it... Well, I do agree with you that an USB I/O expansion adatper is an usable solution. You'll get I2C, SPI and GPIOs without difficulty.
      - Nextgrid 6y ago
        USB-C would actually give you USB3 speeds which is more than enough for Gigabit Ethernet. I remember connecting an Android phone to a gigabit connection via a USB-C to Ethernet adapter and was able to get the full gigabit on an internet speed test.
- solarkraft 6y ago
  In theory this is true, but the dire software situation pretty much kills the idea in my mind. Best case you'll be able to run PostmarketOS, but more likely you'll be constrained to a years old Android with an ancient kernel and a non-standard libc - that is after you mange to get the thing rooted in a convoluted process. You can also be pretty sure that thing is going to be running malware.

Nextgrid 6y ago

Older phones definitely beat Raspberry Pis on both price and features. For barely the same price as a Pi + a decent SD card you get the equivalent of a Pi + a touchscreen, internal NAND, mobile networking, GPS, sound (speaker & mic), a battery backup with built-in charging circuitry and accelerometer/gyroscope sensors.

ta988 6y ago
You don't get the GPIO, external display, many usbs, Ethernet, now pcie if you solder a bit etc... Not really equivalent
- SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
  You could get all that with the usb port. I have certainly tried plugging a USB OTG cable in to a usb to ethernet cable in to a pixel phone and it actually worked and had a special icon for ether net
  - segfaultbuserr 6y ago
    Yes, but nowhere near the performance of GbE, PCI-E, or even USB 3.0 for an iPhone.
    - SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
      I doubt many raspberry pi projects need any of that. You could run a basic web server on an iphone just fine or plug it in to your model car to control using a lightning to usb adapter.
      - segfaultbuserr 6y ago
        > plug it in to your model car to control using a lightning to usb adapter. You'll need GPIOs, and iPhone doesn't have it... Well, I do agree with you that an USB I/O expansion adatper is an usable solution. You'll get I2C, SPI and GPIOs without difficulty.
    - Nextgrid 6y ago
      USB-C would actually give you USB3 speeds which is more than enough for Gigabit Ethernet. I remember connecting an Android phone to a gigabit connection via a USB-C to Ethernet adapter and was able to get the full gigabit on an internet speed test.
solarkraft 6y ago
In theory this is true, but the dire software situation pretty much kills the idea in my mind. Best case you'll be able to run PostmarketOS, but more likely you'll be constrained to a years old Android with an ancient kernel and a non-standard libc - that is after you mange to get the thing rooted in a convoluted process. You can also be pretty sure that thing is going to be running malware.