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I'm not in the US, and I haven't visited the country in a very long time. But I'm casually curious about all of this, and have looked at US media. You are abso

I'm not in the US, and I haven't visited the country in a very long time. But I'm casually curious about all of this, and have looked at US media. You are absolutely right that CNN is biased. They clearly are not trying to make it seem as though they aren't. The same with Fox, who are equally biased. However, only only of those outlets lets their reporters outright lie. Now, it may be that I'm looking in the wrong places, but if I were to see lies on CNN in the same way as I see it on Fox, I'll be happy to change my mind, but right now I think it's pretty clear which one needs to be curbed. Fox also allows comments on their stories. A lot of the real hateful stuff can be found there, and section 230 allows Fox to wash their hands of that. Perhaps Trump was on to something when he was campaigning to have it revoked? (the last part is sarcasm, of course). Edit note: (this post has been downvoted into oblivion. I honestly have no idea which "side" have been doing the downvoting. I wonder if it's because the downvoters misunderstood what I was saying, or if they did understand and simply disagree)

antifreeze0 6y ago
CNN ran with the Russia collusion story for almost 4 years straight. However when it was found out that Biden is meeting with Chinese companies or Hunters laptop they are extremely silent.
- kingofpandora 6y ago
  So ... They are biased but not lying?
  - antifreeze0 6y ago
    The investigation found nothing. A producer on CNN event admitted it was fake and that they are doing it for views. https://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Video-shows-CNN-producer--joking-about-ethics-and-admitting-Russia-story-is-fake-431078973.html https://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Video-shows-CNN-... Seems like they are lying wouldn’t you say?
    - antonvs 6y ago
      I'm confused about what you're talking about. The Mueller Report didn't "find nothing." If you're unaware of this, you can read about it here: https://www.commoncause.org/resource/read-the-mueller-report/ https://www.commoncause.org/resource/read-the-mueller-report... It only didn't end in legal action against Trump because of the procedural issues related to bringing charges against a sitting president. Barr made that decision, and chose to protect Trump. Your video (apparently) shows a CNN producer who apparently believed the story was "fake", but that's not consistent with the actual facts we know.
      - raxxorrax 6y ago
        I didn't find anything. I did show that Trump is surprisingly clean. Maybe because of lacking ability, but unusually clean for a president. Cleaner than Biden in case of Ukraine for example, even if Trumps dealings are self-serving. Furthermore Bidens dealings are relevant to the US geopolitical ambitions and the censorship of it was a disgrace for the press. It keeps people uninformed, even if presentation of these issues is difficult for any news network.
        nindalf 6y ago
        > but unusually clean for a president What's the standard here? Reagan arming Contra rebels by selling arms to Iran? Or are you comparing to the presidential campaigns for President? Are you claiming that Obama and Romney and Clinton colluded way more with foreign powers? Or are you comparing with Biden, who profited in no way from his dealings in Ukraine?
        raxxorrax 6y ago
        If there was a way to indict executive overreach on issues like surveillance and propaganda for example, things that are actually important compared to utterances of certain persons, the numbers would look quite different. Trump is as guilty of executive overreach, no questions asked, but the criticism is very selective.
        6y ago
- threeseed 6y ago
  Hunter Biden is not running for President nor part of the Biden administration. So what he does in his spare time is frankly irrelevant.
  - antifreeze0 6y ago
    The fact his father is meeting with Chinese companies through him is at the very least something that should be investigated and reported on, don’t you think?
    - CamperBob2 6y ago
      B...b...b...but Ivanka! See, isn't this fun?
      - antifreeze0 6y ago
        She isn’t setting up meetings with companies owned by the Chinese government. What is your point?
  - ttt0 6y ago
    If it was truly irrelevant, Twitter wouldn't censor it. They even locked out the New York Post out of their account for posting about it. Biden is in the politics for decades, there is more then plenty of pretty damning evidence to show that, at the very best, he doesn't believe in anything he says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xXx0yUvSw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xXx0yUvSw
    - thrwawy12345 6y ago
      Yea. I haven't followed the "election theft" narrative too closely, but the active, seemingly-coordinated censorship of this story is probably the best case for it.
      - sjwright 6y ago
        That's ridiculous circular logic. The story is valid because it's not being covered? Millions of stories are not covered by the news every day. A functionally infinite number of non-stories are not covered by the news every day. The non-coverage of a story has no bearing on its validity. Your claim is also invalid on its face—the election theft narrative is being spoken about endlessly. Trump's claims are headline news every single day. A significant fraction of the population believe it. So to claim that the story is being "censored" is simply wrong on the facts.

antifreeze0 6y ago

CNN ran with the Russia collusion story for almost 4 years straight. However when it was found out that Biden is meeting with Chinese companies or Hunters laptop they are extremely silent.

kingofpandora 6y ago
So ... They are biased but not lying?
- antifreeze0 6y ago
  The investigation found nothing. A producer on CNN event admitted it was fake and that they are doing it for views. https://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Video-shows-CNN-producer--joking-about-ethics-and-admitting-Russia-story-is-fake-431078973.html https://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Video-shows-CNN-... Seems like they are lying wouldn’t you say?
  - antonvs 6y ago
    I'm confused about what you're talking about. The Mueller Report didn't "find nothing." If you're unaware of this, you can read about it here: https://www.commoncause.org/resource/read-the-mueller-report/ https://www.commoncause.org/resource/read-the-mueller-report... It only didn't end in legal action against Trump because of the procedural issues related to bringing charges against a sitting president. Barr made that decision, and chose to protect Trump. Your video (apparently) shows a CNN producer who apparently believed the story was "fake", but that's not consistent with the actual facts we know.
    - raxxorrax 6y ago
      I didn't find anything. I did show that Trump is surprisingly clean. Maybe because of lacking ability, but unusually clean for a president. Cleaner than Biden in case of Ukraine for example, even if Trumps dealings are self-serving. Furthermore Bidens dealings are relevant to the US geopolitical ambitions and the censorship of it was a disgrace for the press. It keeps people uninformed, even if presentation of these issues is difficult for any news network.
      - nindalf 6y ago
        > but unusually clean for a president What's the standard here? Reagan arming Contra rebels by selling arms to Iran? Or are you comparing to the presidential campaigns for President? Are you claiming that Obama and Romney and Clinton colluded way more with foreign powers? Or are you comparing with Biden, who profited in no way from his dealings in Ukraine?
        raxxorrax 6y ago
        If there was a way to indict executive overreach on issues like surveillance and propaganda for example, things that are actually important compared to utterances of certain persons, the numbers would look quite different. Trump is as guilty of executive overreach, no questions asked, but the criticism is very selective.
      - 6y ago
threeseed 6y ago
Hunter Biden is not running for President nor part of the Biden administration. So what he does in his spare time is frankly irrelevant.
- antifreeze0 6y ago
  The fact his father is meeting with Chinese companies through him is at the very least something that should be investigated and reported on, don’t you think?
  - CamperBob2 6y ago
    B...b...b...but Ivanka! See, isn't this fun?
    - antifreeze0 6y ago
      She isn’t setting up meetings with companies owned by the Chinese government. What is your point?
- ttt0 6y ago
  If it was truly irrelevant, Twitter wouldn't censor it. They even locked out the New York Post out of their account for posting about it. Biden is in the politics for decades, there is more then plenty of pretty damning evidence to show that, at the very best, he doesn't believe in anything he says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xXx0yUvSw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xXx0yUvSw
  - thrwawy12345 6y ago
    Yea. I haven't followed the "election theft" narrative too closely, but the active, seemingly-coordinated censorship of this story is probably the best case for it.
    - sjwright 6y ago
      That's ridiculous circular logic. The story is valid because it's not being covered? Millions of stories are not covered by the news every day. A functionally infinite number of non-stories are not covered by the news every day. The non-coverage of a story has no bearing on its validity. Your claim is also invalid on its face—the election theft narrative is being spoken about endlessly. Trump's claims are headline news every single day. A significant fraction of the population believe it. So to claim that the story is being "censored" is simply wrong on the facts.