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I don’t know if you were paying attention last week, but the mob literally came for the members of Congress. There are wrong opinions, and then there is “six m

I don’t know if you were paying attention last week, but the mob literally came for the members of Congress. There are wrong opinions, and then there is “six million Jews were not enough” and “hang the Vice President”, and a violent mob attacking the Capitol. No one is under any obligation to tolerate such actions in a civil society. If I advocate for your murder, am I just expressing an opinion that should be consequence free if someone kills you? Does that change if enough people agree with me that you should be killed?

Damorian 6y ago
A teacher in my local school district literally beat down a state congressman for video taping them burning our city down a few months ago, yet every corporate entity and left wing politician I can think of encouraged that violent mob. #KillAllCops, or whatever, isn't a wrong opinion I guess.
- jsmeaton 6y ago
  This “both sides” nonsense can get in the bin. Point to the leader of a political party that instigated the attack you speak of.
  - Damorian 6y ago
    Much the same way Trump didn't say "form a violent mob and attack Congress" yet he's being held accountable for what was comparatively nothing. "Both sides" doesn't mean all things are equal, just that they're comparable. The BLM riots this Summer were far more deadly and destructive, and the response to them was very different. Violent protests should be denounced by everyone. Period. I cannot figure out when we collectively decided it was fine, so long as it was the "right" side.
    - joshuamorton 6y ago
      > Much the same way Trump didn't say "form a violent mob and attack Congress" No, but he did whip a crowd into a frenzy and then direct them to March to the capital.
  - koolba 6y ago
    There’s always this gem from Maxine Waters instructing the country to: > "If you see anybody from that (Trump) Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." https://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/623206039/congressional-leaders-criticize-maxine-waters-for-urging-confrontation https://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/623206039/congressional-leade... It’s pretty hard to argue she doesn’t mean to remove them by force.
chrissnell 6y ago
The mob has been coming for law enforcement and federal buildings in many major cities in America for nine months now. This mob actively organized on Twitter and other social media. Where was the outrage in June? Most of the organizations that organized this destruction still have their Twitter accounts.
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- DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
  > The mob has been coming for law enforcement and federal buildings in many major cities in America for nine months now They're "coming for" police reform and transparency. Please don't misrepresent or generalise very disparate groups of demonstrators.
  - casefields 6y ago
    Just like the handful of crazies the other day, you don't get to wash your hands of your bad elements. Imagine if this was the scene at the capital: https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY
  - adnzzzzZ 6y ago
    Capitol protestors were "coming for" election transparency. Please don't misrepresent or generalise very disparate groups of demonstrators.
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  - kuzimoto 6y ago
    So the ends justify the means? Only certain ideas are allowed for mobs to be okay?
    - Tokkemon 6y ago
casefields 6y ago
If they wanted to actually do what you say they intended. There's plenty easier ways compliments of left-wing domestic terrorism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh... Also when 5 members of Congress were shot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_sho... We've even got a New York State Senator claiming: "Seeing the Twin Towers crumble is no longer the most frightening moment of my life,” tweeted state Sen. John Liu (D-Queens). https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/ny-state-sen-john-liu-explains-tweet-saying-capitol-siege-was-scarier-than-9-11/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/ny-state-sen-john-liu-explains... Schumer also compared the event to Pearl Harbor: https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1346991088301715456?s=21 https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1346991088301715456?s... Like really? https://i.imgur.com/ysWxd8f.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ysWxd8f.jpg
logicslave 6y ago
"Give me liberty or give me death"
axguscbklp 6y ago
The recent wave of deplatforming has affected a very large number of people based on the actions of a small group of rioters. Imagine if far left rioters stormed Congress and all of Reddit got nuked as a result. Personally, I'm a lot less worried about right-wing insurrectionists than I am about politically motivated censorship on social media. Why? Because opponents of the insurrectionists are vastly stronger than the insurrectionists. Opponents of the insurrectionists dominate the military, intelligence agencies, tech, academia, and media. The insurrectionists pose virtually no threat to me. The difference between social media controllers' reactions to last summer's riots and last week's riot shows that a concern for keeping people from getting killed is not the controllers' dominant motive. The ones doing the censoring this week don't care if you get killed in a riot that people encouraged on their platforms as long as the riot was politically correct and they won't get into trouble for having allowed people to incite it.
thepasswordis 6y ago
Can you actually point to even one specific instance of Trump calling for any of this?
kuzimoto 6y ago
Shouldn't people be held accountable for their own actions at some point? Everyone should know that murder is illegal, even if <insert popular figure> says to kills someone, you should know not to.
sacks2k 6y ago
"I don’t know if you were paying attention last week, but the mob literally came for the members of Congress." A couple of hundred people attacked the capitol in a crowd of 500,000+. Do you remember the phrase 'mostly peaceful protesters'? We've been hearing it for 8+ months after violent riots in major cities which resulted in 30+deaths, hundreds of innocent people attacked, and 1 billion+ in property damage. "There are wrong opinions, and then there is “six million Jews were not enough” and “hang the Vice President”, and a violent mob attacking the Capitol. No one is under any obligation to tolerate such actions in a civil society." Antifa and BLM have taken over multiple state and federal buildings over the past 8 months. In June, for instance, multiple fires were set all over DC. A church was nearly burnt to the ground and the President had to go to an underground bunker as a result of the threats outside the white house. Unlike the protests in January 6th (which was an unorganized mess of random people), BLM and Antifa are professional rioters/criminals. They wear masks to protect themselves and have corporate backing from large left-leaning organizations. Instead of concern, local leaders painted BLM and named a major street after them. I'm not sure why you only seem to care when it's Trump supporters. Political violence is wrong on both sides, but only one political not only supported it, but paid the bail of rioters and continue to deny that it even exists. The real criminals are about to get into office. "If I advocate for your murder, am I just expressing an opinion that should be consequence free if someone kills you? Does that change if enough people agree with me that you should be killed?" You do realize Trump never said any of this, right? Him and his entire campaign have denounced the violence repeatedly. If you listened to the speech before the capitol was attacked, it was not full of any sort of energy. He basically said that it was all in Pence's hands. Supporters were actually angry because he sounded so defeated. This doesn't sound like the actions of someone trying to storm the Capitol. The media+tech companies+incoming administration are censoring and destroying their political opponents for things they themselves have been supporting and instigating for 4 years. If it wasn't so scary, I would call it pathetic actions from limp-dick journalists.
- bigcorp-slave 6y ago
  There is a difference between eight months of protests in which 15-26 million people participated across the entire country resulting in significant property damage and some loss of life (~25 people), and what happened last week. Let’s call what happened last week what it was: a terrorist attack against the seat of government perpetrated by the ruling party in an attempt to overturn a democratic election. You need to take a serious look in the mirror and ask if you’re the bad guy. As arch-conservative a figure as Mitch McConnell describes this as a failed insurrection and you make excuses for it.

Damorian 6y ago

A teacher in my local school district literally beat down a state congressman for video taping them burning our city down a few months ago, yet every corporate entity and left wing politician I can think of encouraged that violent mob. #KillAllCops, or whatever, isn't a wrong opinion I guess.

jsmeaton 6y ago
This “both sides” nonsense can get in the bin. Point to the leader of a political party that instigated the attack you speak of.
- Damorian 6y ago
  Much the same way Trump didn't say "form a violent mob and attack Congress" yet he's being held accountable for what was comparatively nothing. "Both sides" doesn't mean all things are equal, just that they're comparable. The BLM riots this Summer were far more deadly and destructive, and the response to them was very different. Violent protests should be denounced by everyone. Period. I cannot figure out when we collectively decided it was fine, so long as it was the "right" side.
  - joshuamorton 6y ago
    > Much the same way Trump didn't say "form a violent mob and attack Congress" No, but he did whip a crowd into a frenzy and then direct them to March to the capital.
- koolba 6y ago
  There’s always this gem from Maxine Waters instructing the country to: > "If you see anybody from that (Trump) Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere." https://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/623206039/congressional-leaders-criticize-maxine-waters-for-urging-confrontation https://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/623206039/congressional-leade... It’s pretty hard to argue she doesn’t mean to remove them by force.

chrissnell 6y ago

The mob has been coming for law enforcement and federal buildings in many major cities in America for nine months now. This mob actively organized on Twitter and other social media. Where was the outrage in June? Most of the organizations that organized this destruction still have their Twitter accounts.

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DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
> The mob has been coming for law enforcement and federal buildings in many major cities in America for nine months now They're "coming for" police reform and transparency. Please don't misrepresent or generalise very disparate groups of demonstrators.
- casefields 6y ago
  Just like the handful of crazies the other day, you don't get to wash your hands of your bad elements. Imagine if this was the scene at the capital: https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY https://youtu.be/c8j3h7fuYsY
- adnzzzzZ 6y ago
  Capitol protestors were "coming for" election transparency. Please don't misrepresent or generalise very disparate groups of demonstrators.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- kuzimoto 6y ago
  So the ends justify the means? Only certain ideas are allowed for mobs to be okay?
  - Tokkemon 6y ago

casefields 6y ago

If they wanted to actually do what you say they intended. There's plenty easier ways compliments of left-wing domestic terrorism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_sh... Also when 5 members of Congress were shot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Capitol_sho... We've even got a New York State Senator claiming: "Seeing the Twin Towers crumble is no longer the most frightening moment of my life,” tweeted state Sen. John Liu (D-Queens). https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/ny-state-sen-john-liu-explains-tweet-saying-capitol-siege-was-scarier-than-9-11/ https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/ny-state-sen-john-liu-explains... Schumer also compared the event to Pearl Harbor: https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1346991088301715456?s=21 https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1346991088301715456?s... Like really? https://i.imgur.com/ysWxd8f.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ysWxd8f.jpg

logicslave 6y ago

"Give me liberty or give me death"

axguscbklp 6y ago

The recent wave of deplatforming has affected a very large number of people based on the actions of a small group of rioters. Imagine if far left rioters stormed Congress and all of Reddit got nuked as a result. Personally, I'm a lot less worried about right-wing insurrectionists than I am about politically motivated censorship on social media. Why? Because opponents of the insurrectionists are vastly stronger than the insurrectionists. Opponents of the insurrectionists dominate the military, intelligence agencies, tech, academia, and media. The insurrectionists pose virtually no threat to me. The difference between social media controllers' reactions to last summer's riots and last week's riot shows that a concern for keeping people from getting killed is not the controllers' dominant motive. The ones doing the censoring this week don't care if you get killed in a riot that people encouraged on their platforms as long as the riot was politically correct and they won't get into trouble for having allowed people to incite it.

thepasswordis 6y ago

Can you actually point to even one specific instance of Trump calling for any of this?

kuzimoto 6y ago

Shouldn't people be held accountable for their own actions at some point? Everyone should know that murder is illegal, even if <insert popular figure> says to kills someone, you should know not to.

sacks2k 6y ago

"I don’t know if you were paying attention last week, but the mob literally came for the members of Congress." A couple of hundred people attacked the capitol in a crowd of 500,000+. Do you remember the phrase 'mostly peaceful protesters'? We've been hearing it for 8+ months after violent riots in major cities which resulted in 30+deaths, hundreds of innocent people attacked, and 1 billion+ in property damage. "There are wrong opinions, and then there is “six million Jews were not enough” and “hang the Vice President”, and a violent mob attacking the Capitol. No one is under any obligation to tolerate such actions in a civil society." Antifa and BLM have taken over multiple state and federal buildings over the past 8 months. In June, for instance, multiple fires were set all over DC. A church was nearly burnt to the ground and the President had to go to an underground bunker as a result of the threats outside the white house. Unlike the protests in January 6th (which was an unorganized mess of random people), BLM and Antifa are professional rioters/criminals. They wear masks to protect themselves and have corporate backing from large left-leaning organizations. Instead of concern, local leaders painted BLM and named a major street after them. I'm not sure why you only seem to care when it's Trump supporters. Political violence is wrong on both sides, but only one political not only supported it, but paid the bail of rioters and continue to deny that it even exists. The real criminals are about to get into office. "If I advocate for your murder, am I just expressing an opinion that should be consequence free if someone kills you? Does that change if enough people agree with me that you should be killed?" You do realize Trump never said any of this, right? Him and his entire campaign have denounced the violence repeatedly. If you listened to the speech before the capitol was attacked, it was not full of any sort of energy. He basically said that it was all in Pence's hands. Supporters were actually angry because he sounded so defeated. This doesn't sound like the actions of someone trying to storm the Capitol. The media+tech companies+incoming administration are censoring and destroying their political opponents for things they themselves have been supporting and instigating for 4 years. If it wasn't so scary, I would call it pathetic actions from limp-dick journalists.

bigcorp-slave 6y ago
There is a difference between eight months of protests in which 15-26 million people participated across the entire country resulting in significant property damage and some loss of life (~25 people), and what happened last week. Let’s call what happened last week what it was: a terrorist attack against the seat of government perpetrated by the ruling party in an attempt to overturn a democratic election. You need to take a serious look in the mirror and ask if you’re the bad guy. As arch-conservative a figure as Mitch McConnell describes this as a failed insurrection and you make excuses for it.