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> Gab is an absolute cesspool of delusional QAnon conspiracies I see a lot of people say this but I've never seen anyone back it up with sources. What is the

> Gab is an absolute cesspool of delusional QAnon conspiracies I see a lot of people say this but I've never seen anyone back it up with sources. What is the metric for "absolute cesspool of delusional QAnon conspiracies" and what makes Gab fit that metric better than Facebook or Twitter?

iagovar 6y ago
If I had to bet, most people who talk about Gab, never had a Gab account, and got his info from your average political commentator threads in Twitter and your average media pieces. Right-wing people has the right to exist, and should have a place to discuss their stuff. If you want to close every platform they have because you find they host people with extremist views, then close all the social media all together. If anyone here presumes that the conditions that allowed Donald Trump in office will disappear because you can deplatform such people, then good luck.
- salawat 6y ago
  Amen. Just wait until someone who just doesn't care runs something out of a basement. (Like the Chans were for a while). Then what? Throw law enforcement at them? This is what causes radicalization to escalate. The stakes get higher and higher, and people's worldviews further and further apart, guaranteeing contradiction and misunderstanding. Call me a discordian malcontent, but good lord, these events were painted on the wall years ago. You'd have to be dead to have not felt it.
  - iagovar 6y ago
    The material conditions on which Trump was allowed in office still exists. Unless the Democratic party has some quick solution to prevent large swaths of the american population to decapitalize, lose their standard of life and become poor, the only thing that's happening is that they removed a venue where this anger and resentment can transform itself into political action. So, let's wait for what's gonna happen, because this people will not just sit quiet and wait for their families and their means of life to be destroyed. If anyone thinks this is a top-down phenomena then I invite him to review it, because that's a very narrow view.
jeffbee 6y ago
You've "never seen" such evidence because you didn't look for it. Search for "Gab Hate Corpus" for a meticulously labeled set of tens of thousands of Gab post and natural language analysis thereof. According to that paper, 6% of all posts on Gab contain an explicit call for violence, examples given include "The ZioJesuit cultural marxist anti-white Christian killers now working within our white governments globally should be shot for espionage and treason with their non-white invaders expelled from within our nations immediately for the sake of our future white Christian posterity. Anything else is cowardice, self-eradication & continued genocide." as well as "i hate milo because hes a degenerate faggot [N-slur] fucker. he should be deported and sent to a muzzie country and get thrown off a roof" among many others. Gab is the neo-nazi Twitter, founded and funded by those advocating for the violent overthrow of American democracy and the establishment of a white ethnostate. The people who defend Gab using 1A slippery-slope arguments are themselves sympathizers with white violence.
orblivion 6y ago
I mean, fwiw they explicitly welcomed QAnon once they were banned from Twitter. Granted, they spun it as "Patriots who think for themselves and do their own research" or some such.
tw04 6y ago
>I see a lot of people say this but I've never seen anyone back it up with sources. Well, out of the top 20 largest groups on the site, 4 of them are dedicated entirely to Q-anon, so that's not very difficult to back up: https://gab.com/groups/2043 https://gab.com/groups/2043 https://gab.com/groups/393 https://gab.com/groups/393 https://gab.com/groups/408 https://gab.com/groups/408 https://gab.com/groups/324 https://gab.com/groups/324 >what makes Gab fit that metric better than Facebook or Twitter? I would imagine the fact that Facebook banned Q-Anon entirely from the whole site for spreading conspiracy theories? https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-bans-qanon-across-its-platforms-n1242339 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-bans-qanon-a...

iagovar 6y ago

If I had to bet, most people who talk about Gab, never had a Gab account, and got his info from your average political commentator threads in Twitter and your average media pieces. Right-wing people has the right to exist, and should have a place to discuss their stuff. If you want to close every platform they have because you find they host people with extremist views, then close all the social media all together. If anyone here presumes that the conditions that allowed Donald Trump in office will disappear because you can deplatform such people, then good luck.

salawat 6y ago
Amen. Just wait until someone who just doesn't care runs something out of a basement. (Like the Chans were for a while). Then what? Throw law enforcement at them? This is what causes radicalization to escalate. The stakes get higher and higher, and people's worldviews further and further apart, guaranteeing contradiction and misunderstanding. Call me a discordian malcontent, but good lord, these events were painted on the wall years ago. You'd have to be dead to have not felt it.
- iagovar 6y ago
  The material conditions on which Trump was allowed in office still exists. Unless the Democratic party has some quick solution to prevent large swaths of the american population to decapitalize, lose their standard of life and become poor, the only thing that's happening is that they removed a venue where this anger and resentment can transform itself into political action. So, let's wait for what's gonna happen, because this people will not just sit quiet and wait for their families and their means of life to be destroyed. If anyone thinks this is a top-down phenomena then I invite him to review it, because that's a very narrow view.

jeffbee 6y ago

You've "never seen" such evidence because you didn't look for it. Search for "Gab Hate Corpus" for a meticulously labeled set of tens of thousands of Gab post and natural language analysis thereof. According to that paper, 6% of all posts on Gab contain an explicit call for violence, examples given include "The ZioJesuit cultural marxist anti-white Christian killers now working within our white governments globally should be shot for espionage and treason with their non-white invaders expelled from within our nations immediately for the sake of our future white Christian posterity. Anything else is cowardice, self-eradication & continued genocide." as well as "i hate milo because hes a degenerate faggot [N-slur] fucker. he should be deported and sent to a muzzie country and get thrown off a roof" among many others. Gab is the neo-nazi Twitter, founded and funded by those advocating for the violent overthrow of American democracy and the establishment of a white ethnostate. The people who defend Gab using 1A slippery-slope arguments are themselves sympathizers with white violence.

orblivion 6y ago

I mean, fwiw they explicitly welcomed QAnon once they were banned from Twitter. Granted, they spun it as "Patriots who think for themselves and do their own research" or some such.

tw04 6y ago

>I see a lot of people say this but I've never seen anyone back it up with sources. Well, out of the top 20 largest groups on the site, 4 of them are dedicated entirely to Q-anon, so that's not very difficult to back up: https://gab.com/groups/2043 https://gab.com/groups/2043 https://gab.com/groups/393 https://gab.com/groups/393 https://gab.com/groups/408 https://gab.com/groups/408 https://gab.com/groups/324 https://gab.com/groups/324 >what makes Gab fit that metric better than Facebook or Twitter? I would imagine the fact that Facebook banned Q-Anon entirely from the whole site for spreading conspiracy theories? https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-bans-qanon-across-its-platforms-n1242339 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-bans-qanon-a...