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Wait, Why are students allowed to have a powerul internet machine with them during the test? In India, all students are supposed to turn off their phones and k

Wait, Why are students allowed to have a powerul internet machine with them during the test? In India, all students are supposed to turn off their phones and keep them on the teachers table for the whole duration of the test. Having a phone on person is deemed to be cheating and failed in the test.

vfinn 6y ago
You can't put cameras to toilets, you can't prevent semeone from using a toilet, and you can't search someone's pants.
- bluecalm 6y ago
  Not letting people go to the toilet seems like an obvious solution. It's the same during many situations in life. If you really have to go you fail the test and try again later.
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  - vfinn 6y ago
    To me it's not obvious, if you consider the possibility to use a toilet a human right of the first class. edit: pretty ridiculous that someone down voted my parent comment.
ffpip 6y ago
> In India, all students are supposed to turn off their phones .. There is no rule like that. I'm an Indian student. All exams have different rules. They sometimes ask you to keep phones outside, sometimes near the invigilator, and maybe even in your pockets. Some also refuse to let you use the bathroom throughout the exam (usually 3 hours) But students always find a way to cheat. Nothing will stop cheating.
- kumarvvr 6y ago
  Ok. My wording was a bit off. My source of rules are national level exams, so I assumed most exams are similar. Even what you described, is ultimately aimed at preventing the student from accessing heir phone during the exam.
  - ffpip 6y ago
    > My source of rules are national level exams Even my sources are the same. I took multiple national level exams organized by the government and private colleges just a few months ago. The phones arent even allowed inside the exam hall. You have to keep them outside for national level exams.
memetherapy 6y ago
Yeah that was my experience at university in the UK (well you put it in your bag and got a ticket like at a cloakroom) and that was in 2008 so pre smartphones being common amongst students. If university's or schools are allowing kids to have access to phones during exams in 2021 they're idiots or silently encouraging their students to cheat in order to boost their rankings (not unheard of admittedly in the UK)
esfandia 6y ago
How do you know they don't have a second phone hidden somewhere that they can check when they go to the bathroom?
- kumarvvr 6y ago
  Usually, they are patted down. Not as in full on frisked, but pockets and shirts checked. Women check girls. Even pen / pencil boxes or pouches are not allowed. Bathroom trips are usually not encouraged.

vfinn 6y ago

You can't put cameras to toilets, you can't prevent semeone from using a toilet, and you can't search someone's pants.

bluecalm 6y ago
Not letting people go to the toilet seems like an obvious solution. It's the same during many situations in life. If you really have to go you fail the test and try again later.
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- vfinn 6y ago
  To me it's not obvious, if you consider the possibility to use a toilet a human right of the first class. edit: pretty ridiculous that someone down voted my parent comment.

ffpip 6y ago

> In India, all students are supposed to turn off their phones .. There is no rule like that. I'm an Indian student. All exams have different rules. They sometimes ask you to keep phones outside, sometimes near the invigilator, and maybe even in your pockets. Some also refuse to let you use the bathroom throughout the exam (usually 3 hours) But students always find a way to cheat. Nothing will stop cheating.

kumarvvr 6y ago
Ok. My wording was a bit off. My source of rules are national level exams, so I assumed most exams are similar. Even what you described, is ultimately aimed at preventing the student from accessing heir phone during the exam.
- ffpip 6y ago
  > My source of rules are national level exams Even my sources are the same. I took multiple national level exams organized by the government and private colleges just a few months ago. The phones arent even allowed inside the exam hall. You have to keep them outside for national level exams.

memetherapy 6y ago

Yeah that was my experience at university in the UK (well you put it in your bag and got a ticket like at a cloakroom) and that was in 2008 so pre smartphones being common amongst students. If university's or schools are allowing kids to have access to phones during exams in 2021 they're idiots or silently encouraging their students to cheat in order to boost their rankings (not unheard of admittedly in the UK)

esfandia 6y ago

How do you know they don't have a second phone hidden somewhere that they can check when they go to the bathroom?

kumarvvr 6y ago
Usually, they are patted down. Not as in full on frisked, but pockets and shirts checked. Women check girls. Even pen / pencil boxes or pouches are not allowed. Bathroom trips are usually not encouraged.