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The same system taught them that cheating is usually rewarded. Seems like un unnecessary harsh and vigilante way to try to correct the system single handedly.

by rho4 6y ago

The same system taught them that cheating is usually rewarded. Seems like un unnecessary harsh and vigilante way to try to correct the system single handedly. I would prefer a professor or school who transparently communicates anti-cheating efforts (like online games do) and - most importantly - actually follows through with them systematically.

gspr 6y ago
What broken logic is this? The system generally fails to catch cheaters, therefore it is unfair to be harsh to cheaters when they are caught?
- rho4 6y ago
  Same logic how laws are more lenient and forgiving and full of 2nd chances for minors.
  - alisonkisk 6y ago
    Adults creating fraudulent college degrees are not minors.
pridkett 6y ago
As much as that sounds like a good idea, at most schools you can’t just share the name of cheaters with other faculty due to privacy issues. Yes, I’m not kidding. There’s also the issue that students can appeal and the process usually takes a good amount of effort. But a student who might be looking at another year of tuition and delaying graduation has massively more incentives to challenge it than an assistant professor who is trying to keep his/her head down and get tenure. And that’s why sites like Chegg get away with it.
- JackFr 6y ago
  From a legal standpoint, the fact that I’ve robbed a dozen banks is not evidence that I robbed a particular bank on a particular date. Similarly, from a quasi-legal standpoint, the fact that I cheated on one exam is not evidence that I cheated or will cheat on another.
- bluecalm 6y ago
  This is one downside of very strict privacy laws. Your reputation should suffer if you are breaking the rules to get ahead. This is the very reason the mechanism of reputation was formed. It defends the group from bad actors. If you know that even if you get caught it will not be known publicly then it will always be profitable to cheat.

by rho4 6y ago

gspr 6y ago

What broken logic is this? The system generally fails to catch cheaters, therefore it is unfair to be harsh to cheaters when they are caught?

rho4 6y ago
Same logic how laws are more lenient and forgiving and full of 2nd chances for minors.
- alisonkisk 6y ago
  Adults creating fraudulent college degrees are not minors.

pridkett 6y ago

As much as that sounds like a good idea, at most schools you can’t just share the name of cheaters with other faculty due to privacy issues. Yes, I’m not kidding. There’s also the issue that students can appeal and the process usually takes a good amount of effort. But a student who might be looking at another year of tuition and delaying graduation has massively more incentives to challenge it than an assistant professor who is trying to keep his/her head down and get tenure. And that’s why sites like Chegg get away with it.

JackFr 6y ago
From a legal standpoint, the fact that I’ve robbed a dozen banks is not evidence that I robbed a particular bank on a particular date. Similarly, from a quasi-legal standpoint, the fact that I cheated on one exam is not evidence that I cheated or will cheat on another.
bluecalm 6y ago
This is one downside of very strict privacy laws. Your reputation should suffer if you are breaking the rules to get ahead. This is the very reason the mechanism of reputation was formed. It defends the group from bad actors. If you know that even if you get caught it will not be known publicly then it will always be profitable to cheat.