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This is one of those surprisingly useful and obvious things that I'm surprised not to have seen before. Knowledge of (including pronunciation) jargon is a clas
by pacaro 6y ago
This is one of those surprisingly useful and obvious things that I'm surprised not to have seen before.
Knowledge of (including pronunciation) jargon is a classic gatekeeper
In my experience, I'm in the minority in pronouncing sudo as soodoo, the majority seem to say pseudo. OTOH I've never heard anyone say fsck as anything other than f-suck
From personal experience at Microsoft the backslash was frequently pronounced "whack" (hence whack whack for unc paths), and the ubiquitous error codes like 0xC0000005 were "c-bazillion-5"
- Daneel_ 6y agoI was a su-dough person until I realise that sudo stands for 'super user do' or 'su do', so I switched to soodoo - it makes a lot more sense that way. f-suck is a new one for me though. I would say F S C K to someone else, but I call it fusk in my head.
- jhot 6y agoI've always said F S check in my head but never said or heard it on conversation. I started my computer journey with msdos so I think chkdsk is to blame for me saying 'check'.
- memetomancer 6y agoI'm for su-dough - to my ear it evokes the martial art Judo which makes some kind of sense considering what it does. On the other hand Soo Doo sounds like a pig farmer's wife calling the swine in for their slop. To my ear ;)
- pony_sheared 6y agoI'm a su-dougher, because "pseudo" reminds me I can be someone else.
- stouset 6y agoI’ve always called it “fusck”.
- jcfields 6y agoThat’s how I hear it in my head, probably from years of reading it as a stand-in for profanity on Slashdot and the like.
- satysin 6y agoYup put me down for "fusck" as well. I am probably inventing memories here but I think it is because whenever I saw a system announce it needed to fsck I would say "oh fuck" in my head (sometimes out loud).
- fiddlerwoaroof 6y agoI have always “heard” F sick in my head for fsck
- 3131s 6y agoYeah, me also.
- JoshTriplett 6y agoI tend to pronounce fsck as one syllable, like "fisk" without the 'i'.
- lloeki 6y agoNitpick: su is “substitute user” (sometimes switch user), it merely defaults to root. man su: su - run a command with substitute user and group ID As for fsck I moved from F S C K to progressively bind the S and C in a slide of the tongue, which ends up sounding like F-ceek once I’ve eased in the audience with F-(s)ceek(ay) (parentheses get progressively toned down as I speak faster) That or just “FS check”.
- Daneel_ 6y agoYou're correct, of course. I don't know why I remember it as super user.
- notretarded 6y agoBecause that's its most common use - to impersonate as a privileged user - so su quite naturally becomes super user
- jchw 6y agoBecause sudo really was “superuser do” and is unrelated to the UNIX utility “su” (at least by lineage.)
- devenblake 6y agoIn my head I pronounce fsck "fuck" because that's normally what I say when I realize I have to use it. Around people? fs check or filesystem check.
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- asveikau 6y agoAlso ex MS and I recall whack. I also heard a story about a server called paddy, so its shares were whack whack paddy whack. Never heard bazillion. But many of us used to memorize a bunch of hexadecimal codes and know the symbolic names based on the visual of the hex digits. After repeat lookups the common ones just stay in your brain without effort. The one you shared looks like STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION.
- danaliv 6y agoI was asked the correct pronunciation of /etc in an interview once. Diabolical, if you ask me.
- cbm-vic-20 6y ago"Sorry, you're not a 'culture fit' here."
- YeGoblynQueenne 6y agoThere's historical precedent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth
- uglycoyote 6y agoI have only ever worked with people who call it etcetera.
- userbinator 6y agoI know a few people who pronounce fsck with what sounds like a combination of 'suck' and the expletive, which naturally leads to phrases like "it's fsck'ing the drive."
- simonebrunozzi 6y ago> pseudo I'm originally Italian and my English is now quite good. A very, very common mistake among most "mediterranean" and "romance languages" (Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French, Romanian) people when speaking English is to pronounce ps as in "pissed" without the "i", instead of just the "s" (the "p" is silent), which is the correct way to pronounce it in English. Another very common mistake in my language group is the "gn", as in signal. Correct English is sig-nal [0], while my group usually says it with a different "gn" sound [1]. Well, there's much more, of course, but I wanted to share these two just because, anecdotally, I hear the mistake very often. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whOXnmbOJvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whOXnmbOJvQ [1]: https://forvo.com/word/segnale/ https://forvo.com/word/segnale/
- oblio 6y agoFor Romanians, we pronounce signal correctly, though. We have "gn" as a sound in Romanian, for example "a răstigni" (to nail to a cross"), we don't change it to "ni". But we do have the same problem as Italians with "pseudo": the "p" is right there, why are you skipping it?!? :-p
- carlmr 6y agoI think the ps thing has nothing to do with romance languages. Germans say it the same way. It's just because English is odd here.
- brmgb 6y ago
- lordnacho 6y ago> Knowledge of (including pronunciation) jargon is a classic gatekeeper Indeed, the best example I can find is LateX. You can tell who's read the first pages of the docs from that.
- politelemon 6y agoTIL: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/17509 https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/17509 > English words like ‘technology’ stem from a Greek root beginning with the letters τεχ...; and this same Greek word means art as well as technology. Hence the name TeX, which is an uppercase form of τεχ. > Insiders pronounce the χ of TeX as a Greek chi, not as an ‘x’, so that TeX rhymes with the word blecchhh. It’s the ‘ch’ sound in Scottish words like loch or German words like ach; it’s a Spanish ‘j’ and a Russian ‘kh’. When you say it correctly to your computer, the terminal may become slightly moist.
- cbm-vic-20 6y agoLikewise, LaTeX isn't pronounced as the rubber derivative, but as "Lah-tecchh" /ˈlɑːtɛx/ (IPA via Wikipedia)
- YeGoblynQueenne 6y agoFrom your link though, Leslie Lamport disagrees with Knuth (whom I like to pronounce "nuth" but is actually pronounced "ka-nuth"). I'm Greek and I pronounce LaTeX as "LAY-tek". I just tried pronouncing it "LAY-tech" with a Greek "chi" sound ("λέει-τεχ") and I sounded so silly I almost spat my coffee all over my monitor (only "almost" because I wasn't drinking any coffee). Ain't no way I'm calling it that. And note that, being Greek, I can actually pronounce "χ" correctly. Most Native English-speaking folks I've heard trying to do the same sound like they're in immediate need of someone administering the Heimleich manoeuver to them. Btw, I pronounce "Heimlich" with a Greek "χ" also. I bet most native English-speaking folks pronounce it elsewise. Perhaps as "Heimlick".
- matheusmoreira 6y agoI pronounce fsck as f-sick.