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Or, fuck them for choosing to work for a company that at best is a racist cesspool and at worst is abetting an attempt to steal an election. Every single thing

Or, fuck them for choosing to work for a company that at best is a racist cesspool and at worst is abetting an attempt to steal an election. Every single thing that has happened with Parler was foreseeable and forseen on the day it was announced. It was never about free speech, and everyone knew that.

ivojp 6y ago
Are you suggesting that their long game was always to create an app where a subset of users could organize a riot at the capitol in the event Trump lost the election? You may have less of a grasp on reality than the people who rioted. That or you don't really believe what you said and maybe it's best if each of us do our part to turn the heat down a little bit.
- Daishiman 6y ago
  Have you seen who funded the development of Parler? The Mercer family has explicitly backed Trump and a network of disinformation media. Yes, the game was always about exploiting a segment of crazies for various means.
  - ivojp 6y ago
    I don't think it's wise to impugn an app or service because we find their investors unsavory along political lines. If that's the case let's not forget Facebook is also funded by a Trump supporter and people live stream their mass shootings on there. It seems like many are feigning outrage over a subset of parler's users' actions when in reality what they don't like is that their political opponents have found an app or service that was seemingly immune from the whims of big tech.
    - deleted 6y ago
      [deleted]
    - Daishiman 6y ago
      It's funny that you mention the case of Facebook because if anything, one of the reasons it has abstained from moderating these overt displays of violance for so long is because many of these wealthy investors do not see it as favorable to their ideological interests.
  - Gibbon1 6y ago
    It's telling that didn't take it down. If things go really badly for that family I won't be surprised. Even the remaining Koch brother washed his hands of these people. So now it's their baby.
  - NeverFade 6y ago
    74 million Americans voted for Trump. Nearly half the entire American voting population. Do you really think it's a viable strategy to try to de-legitimize them all?
    - asdff 6y ago
      Did Parler have 74 million users planning murder? No, this isn't delegitimizing conservatives. It's delegitimizing people who are insane, and in this case many of these insane people happen to be conservative.
      - NeverFade 6y ago
        The message I was replying to (apparently deleted) implied that everyone who voted for Trump is in the same wagon, and Parler is illegitimate simply because it was funded by Trump voters.
- fatbird 6y ago
  Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
- prh8 6y ago
  That was literally the purpose of Parler, to be a safe haven for those people.
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't respond to flamewar comments by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That just makes things even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: your account has been using the site primarily for political and ideological battle. That's the line at which we ban accounts (see [1] for more explanation), regardless of which politics or ideology they're battling for. We have to, because this sort of use of the site—or rather abuse, given its intended purpose—destroys what HN is supposed to exist for. I've therefore banned your account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
dang 6y ago
Please don't break the site guidelines like this, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong others are or you feel they are. None of that justifies taking HN threads further into ideological flamewar hell, which is totally what we're trying to avoid here. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708021 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708021. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: in case it's helpful, here's an example of a comment with views similar to yours that doesn't resort to bomb-throwing at the same time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708359

ivojp 6y ago

Are you suggesting that their long game was always to create an app where a subset of users could organize a riot at the capitol in the event Trump lost the election? You may have less of a grasp on reality than the people who rioted. That or you don't really believe what you said and maybe it's best if each of us do our part to turn the heat down a little bit.

Daishiman 6y ago
Have you seen who funded the development of Parler? The Mercer family has explicitly backed Trump and a network of disinformation media. Yes, the game was always about exploiting a segment of crazies for various means.
- ivojp 6y ago
  I don't think it's wise to impugn an app or service because we find their investors unsavory along political lines. If that's the case let's not forget Facebook is also funded by a Trump supporter and people live stream their mass shootings on there. It seems like many are feigning outrage over a subset of parler's users' actions when in reality what they don't like is that their political opponents have found an app or service that was seemingly immune from the whims of big tech.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - Daishiman 6y ago
    It's funny that you mention the case of Facebook because if anything, one of the reasons it has abstained from moderating these overt displays of violance for so long is because many of these wealthy investors do not see it as favorable to their ideological interests.
- Gibbon1 6y ago
  It's telling that didn't take it down. If things go really badly for that family I won't be surprised. Even the remaining Koch brother washed his hands of these people. So now it's their baby.
- NeverFade 6y ago
  74 million Americans voted for Trump. Nearly half the entire American voting population. Do you really think it's a viable strategy to try to de-legitimize them all?
  - asdff 6y ago
    Did Parler have 74 million users planning murder? No, this isn't delegitimizing conservatives. It's delegitimizing people who are insane, and in this case many of these insane people happen to be conservative.
    - NeverFade 6y ago
      The message I was replying to (apparently deleted) implied that everyone who voted for Trump is in the same wagon, and Parler is illegitimate simply because it was funded by Trump voters.
fatbird 6y ago
Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
prh8 6y ago
That was literally the purpose of Parler, to be a safe haven for those people.
dang 6y ago
Please don't respond to flamewar comments by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That just makes things even worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: your account has been using the site primarily for political and ideological battle. That's the line at which we ban accounts (see [1] for more explanation), regardless of which politics or ideology they're battling for. We have to, because this sort of use of the site—or rather abuse, given its intended purpose—destroys what HN is supposed to exist for. I've therefore banned your account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

dang 6y ago

Please don't break the site guidelines like this, regardless of how right you are or feel you are, or how wrong others are or you feel they are. None of that justifies taking HN threads further into ideological flamewar hell, which is totally what we're trying to avoid here. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708021 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708021. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: in case it's helpful, here's an example of a comment with views similar to yours that doesn't resort to bomb-throwing at the same time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25708359