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They can ban individual accounts calling for violence (which happens on both the extreme left and extreme right). But it's only socially acceptable to ban one o

by apta_ 6y ago

They can ban individual accounts calling for violence (which happens on both the extreme left and extreme right). But it's only socially acceptable to ban one of those, the other gets a free ride.

Daishiman 6y ago
No. What is this garbage whataboutism of "both the extreme left and extreme right"?
- apta_ 6y ago
  You don't think the radical left is a problem that the far right is feeding off of? Then the cycle goes on. They both feed off each other.
  - Daishiman 6y ago
    No, I don't. And I frankly don't care much for your example. My grandfather was a Pole who had to fight Nazi invaders, and I have no reservations about him having to put a few bullets over them. Nazis and fascists do not want a free and fair society. They delight in the violence of it and have no interest in a marketplace of ideas.
    - apta_ 6y ago
      > Nazis and fascists do not want a free and fair society The same can be said for the radical left.
      - Daishiman 6y ago
        My grandmother survived the Bolshevik revolution, a real, actually violent left. That you would even dare compare the "radical left" of the US with actual violent revolutionaries makes me question how much of the matter you actually know.
        apta_ 6y ago
        There are degrees of radicalism. BLM founders already described themselves as "trained Marxists". That's sufficient for anyone paying attention to be concerned.
        cauthon 6y ago
        I would think the law enforcement officer beaten to death with a fire extinguisher would be greater cause for concern, but I’m not a moron
        apta_ 6y ago
        And BLM rioters didn't also attack police? Give me a break. Both extreme sides need to be dealt with.
        demifiend 6y ago
        Do BLM protesters openly carry rifles and shotguns like the Black Panthers used to? Do they actually fire on police? I doubt it, and unless you can provide footage from the Associated Press or Agence France-Presse I don't think there's any evidence you could provide that might convince me otherwise.
        burtcooper 6y ago
        LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Hundreds of armed, predominantly Black, activists demanded justice for Breonna Taylor... Enjoy the photos. Took all of one google search. https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/07/25/breonna-taylor-protest-brings-black-white-militias-to-louisville/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/07/25/breonn...
        demifiend 6y ago
        No police wounded or even fired upon. Only three white militia members got hurt, and their lives don't matter to me.
    - j8hn 6y ago
      The radical left is a problem in Seattle as they are terrorizing the Capitol Hill neighborhood. Don't take my word for it. Listen to community activist Victoria Beach explain how she is upset for them terrorizing the area and hijacking the Black Lives Matter movement. https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345184414016278528 https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345184414016278528 https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345192831602679809 https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345192831602679809
- throwawaysea 6y ago
  Would you agree that it is Twitter and Facebook's responsibility to ban all BLM-affiliated groups? After all they have organized numerous events that involved mass rioting that resulted in billions of Dollars in damage, many deaths, and disruption to the lives of hundreds of thousands. In many cases, politicians like AOC or news pundits like Don Lemon have condoned this violence, and even encouraged more such action. At times they have gaslighted us by claiming those events were "mostly peaceful" even though there is evidence to the contrary showing criminality far larger in scale than the recent capitol riot (example: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/fires-light-up-washington-dc-on-third-night-of-george-floyd-protests https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/fires-light-...). Those individuals and groups who organized, incited, and participated in such events were not reprimanded and not banned. So why are they all given a pass? It's because these tech companies are comprised mostly of left-leaning staff and are willing to now exercise their power against everyone else. Until Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon deplatform every single person and group involved in the hundreds of events in 2020 that involved criminal acts, these new acts of censorship will remain discriminatory and unacceptable.
- j8hn 6y ago
  People are trying to have civil discussions and you are using inciteful language calling their argument "garbage".

by apta_ 6y ago

They can ban individual accounts calling for violence (which happens on both the extreme left and extreme right). But it's only socially acceptable to ban one of those, the other gets a free ride.

Daishiman 6y ago

No. What is this garbage whataboutism of "both the extreme left and extreme right"?

apta_ 6y ago
You don't think the radical left is a problem that the far right is feeding off of? Then the cycle goes on. They both feed off each other.
- Daishiman 6y ago
  No, I don't. And I frankly don't care much for your example. My grandfather was a Pole who had to fight Nazi invaders, and I have no reservations about him having to put a few bullets over them. Nazis and fascists do not want a free and fair society. They delight in the violence of it and have no interest in a marketplace of ideas.
  - apta_ 6y ago
    > Nazis and fascists do not want a free and fair society The same can be said for the radical left.
    - Daishiman 6y ago
      My grandmother survived the Bolshevik revolution, a real, actually violent left. That you would even dare compare the "radical left" of the US with actual violent revolutionaries makes me question how much of the matter you actually know.
      - apta_ 6y ago
        There are degrees of radicalism. BLM founders already described themselves as "trained Marxists". That's sufficient for anyone paying attention to be concerned.
        cauthon 6y ago
        I would think the law enforcement officer beaten to death with a fire extinguisher would be greater cause for concern, but I’m not a moron
        apta_ 6y ago
        And BLM rioters didn't also attack police? Give me a break. Both extreme sides need to be dealt with.
        demifiend 6y ago
        Do BLM protesters openly carry rifles and shotguns like the Black Panthers used to? Do they actually fire on police? I doubt it, and unless you can provide footage from the Associated Press or Agence France-Presse I don't think there's any evidence you could provide that might convince me otherwise.
        burtcooper 6y ago
        LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Hundreds of armed, predominantly Black, activists demanded justice for Breonna Taylor... Enjoy the photos. Took all of one google search. https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/07/25/breonna-taylor-protest-brings-black-white-militias-to-louisville/ https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/07/25/breonn...
        demifiend 6y ago
        No police wounded or even fired upon. Only three white militia members got hurt, and their lives don't matter to me.
  - j8hn 6y ago
    The radical left is a problem in Seattle as they are terrorizing the Capitol Hill neighborhood. Don't take my word for it. Listen to community activist Victoria Beach explain how she is upset for them terrorizing the area and hijacking the Black Lives Matter movement. https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345184414016278528 https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345184414016278528 https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345192831602679809 https://twitter.com/choeshow/status/1345192831602679809
throwawaysea 6y ago
Would you agree that it is Twitter and Facebook's responsibility to ban all BLM-affiliated groups? After all they have organized numerous events that involved mass rioting that resulted in billions of Dollars in damage, many deaths, and disruption to the lives of hundreds of thousands. In many cases, politicians like AOC or news pundits like Don Lemon have condoned this violence, and even encouraged more such action. At times they have gaslighted us by claiming those events were "mostly peaceful" even though there is evidence to the contrary showing criminality far larger in scale than the recent capitol riot (example: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/fires-light-up-washington-dc-on-third-night-of-george-floyd-protests https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/31/fires-light-...). Those individuals and groups who organized, incited, and participated in such events were not reprimanded and not banned. So why are they all given a pass? It's because these tech companies are comprised mostly of left-leaning staff and are willing to now exercise their power against everyone else. Until Twitter, Facebook, and Amazon deplatform every single person and group involved in the hundreds of events in 2020 that involved criminal acts, these new acts of censorship will remain discriminatory and unacceptable.
j8hn 6y ago
People are trying to have civil discussions and you are using inciteful language calling their argument "garbage".