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True. It's also true that he told them to protest peacefully BEFORE the riot as well. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol buil

True. It's also true that he told them to protest peacefully BEFORE the riot as well. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." Frankly I find your dishonesty unacceptable.

mullingitover 6y ago
> Frankly I find your dishonesty unacceptable. Hilarious if you're being serious. Read the transcript. Those 'peacefully and patriotically' disclaimers are surrounded with language like: > We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that. > But this year using the pretext of the China virus and the scam of mail-in ballots, Democrats attempted the most brazen and outrageous election theft. There’s never been anything like this. It’s a pure theft in American history, everybody knows it. > Our media is not free. It’s not fair. It suppresses thought. It suppresses speech, and it’s become the enemy of the people. It’s become the enemy of the people. (followed by his supporters assaulting the press) > We won’t have a country of it happens.[sic] > So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. Read the whole transcript of that speech. It's loaded with clear, unambiguous "fighting words" (to use the legal term) with a bare sprinkling of disclaimers to offer some fig leaf to what he's inciting. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-sav...
- tetrometal 6y ago
  Of course I'm serious. Don't think that we don't notice you conveniently ignoring being called out for your deception. Your reputation is decreasing monotonically. Nothing in the lines you posted gives me pause, or suggests anything remotely like "invade the capitol building". To suggest otherwise is simply speculative conspiracy that frankly sounds like the QAnon crap I have to combat from the right. You're all so tiresome, but the left is far more dangerous because its conspiracy nuts have somehow installed themselves into the institutions and are brainwashing millions of people with their inanity. I swear, I'll be spending the rest of my life alternating between "No, Donald Trump didn't incite insurrection," and "No, Joe Biden didn't communicate that he had built an organization to perpetrate voter fraud." facepalm
  - dang 6y ago
    We've banned this account for using the site primarily (exclusively?) for political flamewar. That's not allowed because it destroys the curious conversation this site exists for. Yes, we ban accounts that do it regardless of their ideological flavor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
    - blockmarker 6y ago
      Then I hope you are also banning their adversary.
      - dang 6y ago
        That depends on the pattern of behavior by the other account.

mullingitover 6y ago

> Frankly I find your dishonesty unacceptable. Hilarious if you're being serious. Read the transcript. Those 'peacefully and patriotically' disclaimers are surrounded with language like: > We want to go back, and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that. > But this year using the pretext of the China virus and the scam of mail-in ballots, Democrats attempted the most brazen and outrageous election theft. There’s never been anything like this. It’s a pure theft in American history, everybody knows it. > Our media is not free. It’s not fair. It suppresses thought. It suppresses speech, and it’s become the enemy of the people. It’s become the enemy of the people. (followed by his supporters assaulting the press) > We won’t have a country of it happens.[sic] > So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. Read the whole transcript of that speech. It's loaded with clear, unambiguous "fighting words" (to use the legal term) with a bare sprinkling of disclaimers to offer some fig leaf to what he's inciting. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6 https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-sav...

tetrometal 6y ago
Of course I'm serious. Don't think that we don't notice you conveniently ignoring being called out for your deception. Your reputation is decreasing monotonically. Nothing in the lines you posted gives me pause, or suggests anything remotely like "invade the capitol building". To suggest otherwise is simply speculative conspiracy that frankly sounds like the QAnon crap I have to combat from the right. You're all so tiresome, but the left is far more dangerous because its conspiracy nuts have somehow installed themselves into the institutions and are brainwashing millions of people with their inanity. I swear, I'll be spending the rest of my life alternating between "No, Donald Trump didn't incite insurrection," and "No, Joe Biden didn't communicate that he had built an organization to perpetrate voter fraud." facepalm
- dang 6y ago
  We've banned this account for using the site primarily (exclusively?) for political flamewar. That's not allowed because it destroys the curious conversation this site exists for. Yes, we ban accounts that do it regardless of their ideological flavor. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
  - blockmarker 6y ago
    Then I hope you are also banning their adversary.
    - dang 6y ago
      That depends on the pattern of behavior by the other account.