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It's okay when the left does it but it's a national crisis when the right does it. Pointing out the hypocrisy.

by vimy 6y ago

mullingitover 6y ago
I don't recall the time when armed insurrectionists with guns, bombs, and zip ties attempted to execute the Vice President when the left did it, can you share some links?
- tetrometal 6y ago
  You're narrowing the criteria to match this specific event and asking for an exact replica the left, of which there are none. We see through your rhetoric. Last summer was replete with examples of violence from the left. Far more deadly and destructive than seen at the capitol building riot.
  - mullingitover 6y ago
    Overwhelmingly peaceful, massive, justified protests with scattered violence, versus highly targeted political violence instigated by the highest-ranking public official and based on an unvarnished lie. These things are the same to you?
    - vimy 6y ago
      If you think it was scattered and not organized you haven't been paying attention. 95 % of black lives matter protests were peaceful. There were 10600 demonstration events which leaves us with 500 riots. A massive number. Results: - Worsening of race relations - Billions of dollars in damage - Numerous stores and businesses, predominantly owned by black and latino Americans, destroyed. Those people, the very same we were told the riots were for, had their lives ruined in the name of social justice. Or do you think insurance reimburses all the damage and in a timely fashion? Years of hard work ruined. We know from past riots it takes decades for neighborhoods to recover. - Almost 50 people died, can't recall the exact number. I think 47 - 9 million extra Trump votes and a doubling of his latino and black vote
      - michaelmrose 6y ago
        Where did you get the 10,600 number and the percentage that were peaceful? Where is the proof that damaging riots were deliberately organized. I mostly saw white people looting under the cover of black people marching. Where is the proof that it was primarily minority owned businesses that were damaged? Why would it take decades for these businesses to file a claim with their insurance and replace their merchandise and windows?
        vimy 6y ago
        > Where did you get the 10,600 number and the percentage that were peaceful https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/ https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-vi... cmd + f 'NATIONWIDE DEMONSTRATIONS' > Where is the proof that damaging riots were deliberately organized. You don't sustain riots for months without organizing. > Why would it take decades for these businesses to file a claim with their insurance and replace their merchandise and windows? Not their insurance but the economic damage. That's what happened after the 1960s riots. https://www.jstor.org/stable/40056402?seq=1 https://www.jstor.org/stable/40056402?seq=1 > Where is the proof that it was primarily minority owned businesses that were damaged? Because the riots were mostly in low-income neighborhoods. https://www.startribune.com/riots-arson-leave-minnesota-communities-of-color-devastated/570921492/ https://www.startribune.com/riots-arson-leave-minnesota-comm... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/minneapolis-protests-business-looting.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/minneapolis-protests-b... https://www.businessinsider.com/black-owned-businesses-put-up-signs-to-stop-looting-show-solidarity-2020-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/black-owned-businesses-put-u...
- vimy 6y ago
  They weren't armed, they had to pass the secret service checks to get to the Trump rally area. Then marched straight from there to the capitol. Maybe there were some guns from others that didn't come from the rally, I don't know. I only know the only one that used a gun was the capitol police on an unarmed protestor. She was shot without warning while trying to climb through a door window. We don't know if the bombs were planted by Trump supporters or Antifa. This wasn't an assassination attempt but a rally that got out of hand. I watched the livestream. Did you know what most of them did when they were inside? They were in awe of the building and started taking selfies. Then most of them just stood there, unsure what to do. They even stayed inside the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, like a bunch of tourists. Does that sounds like an armed insurrection?
  - mullingitover 6y ago
    > Then most of them just stood there, unsure what to do. They even stayed inside the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, like a bunch of tourists. Does that sounds like an armed insurrection? It sounds like what it is: a mob, drunk on falsehoods and weaponized against the US Capitol in hopes of intimidating congress into overturning a thoroughly litigated and settled election.
    - vimy 6y ago
      Exactly, a mob drunk on falsehoods trying to intimidate representatives. Like those protests above I linked. Glad we finally agree. :)
      - mullingitover 6y ago
        George Floyd being murdered was real, and the overwhelmingly peaceful protests with bipartisan support were wholly justified. A vast conspiracy at all levels of state, local, and federal government, involving shadowy corporations, Venezuela, George Soros, spanning both political parties and involving thousands of conspirators, and none of whom leaked a single detail, is a right-wing fantasy.

It's okay when the left does it but it's a national crisis when the right does it. Pointing out the hypocrisy.

by vimy 6y ago

It's okay when the left does it but it's a national crisis when the right does it. Pointing out the hypocrisy.

I don't recall the time when armed insurrectionists with guns, bombs, and zip ties attempted to execute the Vice President when the left did it, can you share some links?

tetrometal 6y ago
You're narrowing the criteria to match this specific event and asking for an exact replica the left, of which there are none. We see through your rhetoric. Last summer was replete with examples of violence from the left. Far more deadly and destructive than seen at the capitol building riot.
- mullingitover 6y ago
  Overwhelmingly peaceful, massive, justified protests with scattered violence, versus highly targeted political violence instigated by the highest-ranking public official and based on an unvarnished lie. These things are the same to you?
  - vimy 6y ago
    If you think it was scattered and not organized you haven't been paying attention. 95 % of black lives matter protests were peaceful. There were 10600 demonstration events which leaves us with 500 riots. A massive number. Results: - Worsening of race relations - Billions of dollars in damage - Numerous stores and businesses, predominantly owned by black and latino Americans, destroyed. Those people, the very same we were told the riots were for, had their lives ruined in the name of social justice. Or do you think insurance reimburses all the damage and in a timely fashion? Years of hard work ruined. We know from past riots it takes decades for neighborhoods to recover. - Almost 50 people died, can't recall the exact number. I think 47 - 9 million extra Trump votes and a doubling of his latino and black vote
    - michaelmrose 6y ago
      Where did you get the 10,600 number and the percentage that were peaceful? Where is the proof that damaging riots were deliberately organized. I mostly saw white people looting under the cover of black people marching. Where is the proof that it was primarily minority owned businesses that were damaged? Why would it take decades for these businesses to file a claim with their insurance and replace their merchandise and windows?
      - vimy 6y ago
        > Where did you get the 10,600 number and the percentage that were peaceful https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/ https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-vi... cmd + f 'NATIONWIDE DEMONSTRATIONS' > Where is the proof that damaging riots were deliberately organized. You don't sustain riots for months without organizing. > Why would it take decades for these businesses to file a claim with their insurance and replace their merchandise and windows? Not their insurance but the economic damage. That's what happened after the 1960s riots. https://www.jstor.org/stable/40056402?seq=1 https://www.jstor.org/stable/40056402?seq=1 > Where is the proof that it was primarily minority owned businesses that were damaged? Because the riots were mostly in low-income neighborhoods. https://www.startribune.com/riots-arson-leave-minnesota-communities-of-color-devastated/570921492/ https://www.startribune.com/riots-arson-leave-minnesota-comm... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/minneapolis-protests-business-looting.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/minneapolis-protests-b... https://www.businessinsider.com/black-owned-businesses-put-up-signs-to-stop-looting-show-solidarity-2020-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/black-owned-businesses-put-u...
vimy 6y ago
They weren't armed, they had to pass the secret service checks to get to the Trump rally area. Then marched straight from there to the capitol. Maybe there were some guns from others that didn't come from the rally, I don't know. I only know the only one that used a gun was the capitol police on an unarmed protestor. She was shot without warning while trying to climb through a door window. We don't know if the bombs were planted by Trump supporters or Antifa. This wasn't an assassination attempt but a rally that got out of hand. I watched the livestream. Did you know what most of them did when they were inside? They were in awe of the building and started taking selfies. Then most of them just stood there, unsure what to do. They even stayed inside the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, like a bunch of tourists. Does that sounds like an armed insurrection?
- mullingitover 6y ago
  > Then most of them just stood there, unsure what to do. They even stayed inside the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, like a bunch of tourists. Does that sounds like an armed insurrection? It sounds like what it is: a mob, drunk on falsehoods and weaponized against the US Capitol in hopes of intimidating congress into overturning a thoroughly litigated and settled election.
  - vimy 6y ago
    Exactly, a mob drunk on falsehoods trying to intimidate representatives. Like those protests above I linked. Glad we finally agree. :)
    - mullingitover 6y ago
      George Floyd being murdered was real, and the overwhelmingly peaceful protests with bipartisan support were wholly justified. A vast conspiracy at all levels of state, local, and federal government, involving shadowy corporations, Venezuela, George Soros, spanning both political parties and involving thousands of conspirators, and none of whom leaked a single detail, is a right-wing fantasy.