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You seem to be contributing to the discussion, but people are downvoting without actually voicing any disagreement. This seems to be common when you take the c

by wisty 6y ago

You seem to be contributing to the discussion, but people are downvoting without actually voicing any disagreement. This seems to be common when you take the conservative "side" even if it's not really a partisan position you take, simply disagreeing with implications that the entire right are dumb racists.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago
> You seem to be contributing to the discussion, but people are downvoting without actually voicing any disagreement. downvotes are the voice of the unheard. > This seems to be common when you take the conservative "side" even if it's not really a partisan position you take, simply disagreeing with implications that the entire right are dumb racists. its common on both sides because its part of the human condition. However hn is one of the few places on the internet where it is even possible to achieve this, despite the downvotes.
burlesonK 6y ago
I'm starting to believe down-voting has gotten more useless and should be removed. Perhaps up-voting is sufficient, but maybe not.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  Unfortunately, Facebook demonstrates that only positive feedback tends to cause problems. I do agree that downvoting (especially on political threads) is not working very well.
- yurishimo 6y ago
  I’ve been on HN for years and still can’t downvote.
  - xnx 6y ago
    I believe your "karma" has to be above 500.
- chr1 6y ago
  Maybe list of downvoters and upvoters should be public
AnthonyMouse 6y ago
> This seems to be common when you take the conservative "side" even if it's not really a partisan position you take, simply disagreeing with implications that the entire right are dumb racists. I don't even want to be doing this. Trump supports coal. Ajit Pai. He's a pathological liar. Trump sucks. But a lot of the things he gets wrong actually help him in swing states. There is a lot of coal in Pennsylvania. So lazy opponents can't easily use those things to attack him because it would only get him more votes in places that matter. And then we end up in a situation where the majority of people hate Trump for reasons that are actually lies, because the truth translates inconveniently to the electoral map and too many people care more about winning no matter the cost.

by wisty 6y ago

chordalkeyboard 6y ago

> You seem to be contributing to the discussion, but people are downvoting without actually voicing any disagreement. downvotes are the voice of the unheard. > This seems to be common when you take the conservative "side" even if it's not really a partisan position you take, simply disagreeing with implications that the entire right are dumb racists. its common on both sides because its part of the human condition. However hn is one of the few places on the internet where it is even possible to achieve this, despite the downvotes.

burlesonK 6y ago

I'm starting to believe down-voting has gotten more useless and should be removed. Perhaps up-voting is sufficient, but maybe not.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
Unfortunately, Facebook demonstrates that only positive feedback tends to cause problems. I do agree that downvoting (especially on political threads) is not working very well.
yurishimo 6y ago
I’ve been on HN for years and still can’t downvote.
- xnx 6y ago
  I believe your "karma" has to be above 500.
chr1 6y ago
Maybe list of downvoters and upvoters should be public

AnthonyMouse 6y ago

> This seems to be common when you take the conservative "side" even if it's not really a partisan position you take, simply disagreeing with implications that the entire right are dumb racists. I don't even want to be doing this. Trump supports coal. Ajit Pai. He's a pathological liar. Trump sucks. But a lot of the things he gets wrong actually help him in swing states. There is a lot of coal in Pennsylvania. So lazy opponents can't easily use those things to attack him because it would only get him more votes in places that matter. And then we end up in a situation where the majority of people hate Trump for reasons that are actually lies, because the truth translates inconveniently to the electoral map and too many people care more about winning no matter the cost.