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It's almost like there was some sort of catalyst event that occurred very recently that would provoke such a response. /s
by dleslie 6y ago
It's almost like there was some sort of catalyst event that occurred very recently that would provoke such a response. /s
- redflame8 6y agoLike the protesting/rioting for 115 straight days in Portland that wasnt condemned?
- rpz 6y ago> catalyst More like excuse :)
- tracer4201 6y agoHe incited an insurrection and he still seems to be egging those people on. But people who support the guy would defend him no matter what.
- guscost 6y agoNow this makes the “cops let them in” conspiracy super interesting. The timing is pretty convenient!
- blisterpeanuts 6y agoWhy did they do it? There's video footage showing cops literally pulling back the barricades and waving people in. I don't understand why they did that, and surely their not doing that would have prevented the subsequent violence?
- guscost 6y agoAnother explanation is that it is “the blue” getting back at the left: https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/chicago-police-union-president-defends-those-who-stormed-us-capitol/6842fa80-3b83-4396-af05-a5f15f4ac740 https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/chicago-police-union-presid... Or, maybe the CIA just manipulated the blue into doing this! Conspiracy inception!
- blisterpeanuts 6y agoI mean, Occam's Razor would suggest that the simplest explanation is also the most likely: the police made a mistake.
- scoopertrooper 6y agoI wish this incorrect notion would die, The cops didn't just let them in. The protesters pushed past the main barricades. After the cordon had been broken, the police retreated back towards the Capitol building. The police repeatedly did this until they were completely overwhelmed by the protesters. One police officer died in the melee and several others sustained injuries. The failure on the day was one of leadership and intelligence, but the poor guys on the ground did their best. https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/1346966514990149639?s=21 https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/134696651499014963... https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/krvssn/trump_supporters_engage_in_destructive_behavior/ https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/krvssn/trum... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krvboi/clashes_inside_the_us_capitol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/krvboi/clas...
- blisterpeanuts 6y agoThere's video footage of the cops literally pulling back the barricades. See Millie Weaver on YT for example, and dozens of others.
- scoopertrooper 6y agoOkay, I took your advice and found the relevant video on her Youtube channel; it pretty much confirmed what I said. > Speaker 1: There were a couple of groups that busted through, but other than that, I mean it was almost like they let everybody else through, like once a group kind of busted through just trying [inaudible] mad > Speaker 2: They were just trying to run away [inaudible] https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=52&v=BUE4TCLlv-c https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=52&v=BUE4TCLlv-c As they admit, the mob broke through part of the police lines, so the police retreated back to the Capitol building. Doing otherwise, would have allowed the remaining officers on the line to be encircled by the elements of the mob that had already broken through. In any event, nobody is all that mad that the Trump supporters made their way to the steps of the Capitol building, the central issue is that they actually broke into the building and started marauding and threatening its occupants. Your video does not allege that the Capitol Police let the protesters into the Capitol building. Rather, both your video and the ones I provided show they clearly did not. The mob made it in by climbing walls and scaffolding and smashing through windows and doors. Your video tries to blames Antifa, but that is completely illogical. True, it shows several people within the crowd decrying the forced entry and blaming Antifa, but yet somehow scores of confirmed Trump supporters made it inside the Capitol building. Did the Trump supporters just happen to be on a tour inside the building when Antifa broke down the doors? Did Antifa somehow force them to rampage through the place, beat police officers, steal, and vandalise property?
- anthuswilliams 6y agoA big part of it is likely that they didn't know if the National Guard would be called out if things got out of hand. I believe the police let them in because they were outnumbered and thought letting them through once the premises were evacuated would prevent an even worse outbreak of violence if they (the police) were overwhelmed by the crowd.
- DangitBobby 6y agoIt's so comical that sibling comments are unironically missing the connection that it's basically indistinguishable from satire. I really can't tell.
- kortilla 6y agoThat’s an excuse, not the reason. Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence. Mass texts, email chains, WhatsApp, signal, 4chan boards, etc are all there.
- enraged_camel 6y ago>>Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence. It definitely helps. Just because people can coordinate using other mediums is not an argument against making it more difficult for them.
- remexre 6y agoYeah, I've heard this referred to as the "people will find a way to get heroin anyway, so illegalizing heroin production/sale is pointless" argument
- enraged_camel 6y agoPut more succinctly, the "might as well not pass any laws then" argument.
- blisterpeanuts 6y agoHow does it help? Parler's terms of service ban calls for violence. The simple explanation is usually the correct one: Parler's growing so fast that it simply can't keep up with policing the content. They need to add a lot more moderators and things will calm down. Google and Apple are making a mistake.
- rat87 6y agoNah I'm pretty sure that's the reason
- kortilla 6y agoNope. It’s even called out by Twitter that it’s been a culmination over time.
- SpaceRaccoon 6y agoMonths of violent rioting in the streets? 2/3rds of democrats believing Russia hacked and changed vote counts in 2016? The hypocrisy is unbelievable. This will not end well.
- colinmhayes 6y agoSource that 2/3 democrats believe russians hacked voting machines? I haven't heard anyone claim that.
- detaro 6y agopresumably they are referring to https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2018/03/09/russias-impact-election-seen-through-partisan-eyes https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20... "Two out of three Democrats also claim Russia tampered with vote tallies on Election Day to help the President – something for which there has been no credible evidence."
- casefields 6y agohttps://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2016/12/27/belief-conspiracies-largely-depends-political-iden https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...
- mhh__ 6y ago> 2/3rds of democrats believing Russia hacked and changed vote counts in 2016? [Citation needed] The chronology of Russian involvement with and around the Trump campaign, illegal or not, is pretty damn well established now thanks to the Mueller report, disclosures from other parallel cases, and the recent senate committee report. Changing vote counts isn't part of it. Meanwhile, as per YouGov [https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/01/06/US-capitol-trump-poll https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...] "One in five voters - including 45% of Republicans - approve of the storming of the Capitol building"
- SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
- Nacdor 6y agoI'm curious why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots (more than 25 dead, $2 billion in property damage) without so much as a peep from Google, Twitter, Facebook or any other tech giant. Kamala Harris said "they should not stop" and helped with a bail fund for the people who were involved with them. I think protest is a fundamental requirement of democracy, and as Chris Cuomo himself reminded us: protest aren't always peaceful [1]. It seems like a lot of Democrats are conveniently forgetting that all of a sudden. https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2020/06/03/chris-cuomo-calls-police-accountability-defends-protests/3133326001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/202...
- pstuart 6y agoI'm curious why you think Democrats encouraged riots at BLM protests. Perhaps you're thinking of the the agents provocateur that were white supremacist: https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272/ https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-... Do you have any evidence to back up your claim where any Democratic official agitated for violence in those protests?
- guscost 6y agoBLM riots were not a direct and realistic threat to the establishment. They are scared.
- costsNall 6y agoThe establishment is you. Country by, of, and for the people. Americans refuse to act collectively except to circle back to their job every morning, propping up “the establishment”. Let’s stop pretending we’re above it all.
- AndrewBissell 6y agoWednesday's riots were not a threat to anything either. They knew it was coming days in advance and allowed it to proceed so it could be used as a pretext for the ongoing crackdown and consolidation of political and cultural dominance (as well as splitting U.S. populist factions onto multiple platforms where they will no longer see each other).
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- adamsea 6y agoI know. It’s almost like these companies are run by people who are members of society or something. /s
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 6y agoThe parent comment is in every single thread in some form. It's almost like a narrative is being pushed. But yes, I distinctly remember a national tragedy like none other happening a few days ago.
- flatt 6y ago"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." -Some guy from some political party