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When /r/the_donald got booted off reddit they got together and created https://thedonald.win/ https://thedonald.win/. All this action from twitter will do is c

When /r/the_donald got booted off reddit they got together and created https://thedonald.win/ https://thedonald.win/. All this action from twitter will do is create an opportunity for a different or new site to host trump's comments. And for many people, and maybe someday the majority of people, that new site may be more trustworthy than twitter.

simlevesque 6y ago
Do you think they are not aware of that ? I think that they know and they think it's insignificant.
runarberg 6y ago
Good. Kick him of off the more popular platform and let him rot in the dirty corners of the internet. He and his followers can spew their racism all they want in some dirty unmoderated space where I and my friends don’t have to suffer for it. If they then use that platform to plan something dangerous and illegal, a competent law enforcement should be able to stop it and arrest them on grounds of conspiracy or hate speech.
- annexrichmond 6y ago
  How did the existence of his account on Twitter lead you and your friends to suffer? Can't you just block that account? > If they then use that platform to plan something dangerous and illegal, a competent law enforcement should be able to stop it and arrest them on grounds of conspiracy or hate speech. The same could be said if the account remained on Twitter. In fact, one could argue that's better platform for law enforcement to take action.
  - runarberg 6y ago
    The harm is in exposing this toxic and racist rhetoric to my friends and family. This can be a) insulting and b) incite people we’re close to repeat and extend on this rhetoric. The further he is from the popular platform the less likely it is to happen to those close to me. The popular platforms are full of dog whistles and memeified hate speech as people moderate them self in order to make the content more palatable for the general public and prevent being kicked of the platform. In an unmoderated dark corner of the internet that is not necessary. So arguable twitter is a terrible place for law enforcement to hunt down racists and prevent their terrorism.
    - postalrat 6y ago
      This is how news networks like fox news become #1.
      - mkr-hn 6y ago
        The channel with an average of 3 million viewers at peak times? Cable news is not big. There are YouTubers I've never heard of who do a multiple of that on their videos. Don't mistake noise for influence.
        postalrat 6y ago
        How many live youtube or twitch channels have 3 million viewers?
lumpenprole 6y ago
Yes, the best way to build trust is to act as a megaphone for Donald Trump.
dageshi 6y ago
Nope. They will never police themselves to the extent that they had too on reddit. Anyone stumbling into them who wasn't already heavily inclined to their cause will bounce off from the sheer nastiness of the place. Being on reddit forced them to tone down and memeify to the point where they were kinda entertaining in the beginning, that's what drew a lot of people in. thedonald.win will end up like another infowars or 4chan, that weird corner of the internet you visit occasionally to look at the weirdness but mostly avoid.
- blisterpeanuts 6y ago
  How exactly is TheDonald.win "sheer nasty"? Give some examples. I've perused that site and there's a lot of outrage at how the President has been treated, true, but I don't see much nasty. Then again, free speech can seem ugly, when you're used to a carefully curated kind of controlled speech.
  - dageshi 6y ago
    Well I'd go check but the site seems to be down. Perhaps "nasty" is the wrong word, although I do think there's an element of that. More "delusional"? That is, so divorced from what I perceive as reality that anyone not already on that path is going to be utterly confused by what people there believe, like the other conspiracy-esque sites out there.
    - postalrat 6y ago
      It's not down. You do have to pass a captcha because all the crazies are targeting the site.
      - blisterpeanuts 6y ago
        It's back, as of 7:31 EST, and no captcha. But it's still very slow. But so is hacker news, at least for me. EDIT: oops, it's down at 7:33. I guess the landing page is up, but clicking on a discussion sends me back to a Cloudflare gateway timeout page.
tmpz22 6y ago
Having massive followings on fringe sites yields less legitimacy then having a massive following on one of the mainstays of the internet.
SquareWheel 6y ago
Didn't they create that website before they got banned?
- input_sh 6y ago
  Yes, long before. /r/t_d was pretty much dead at the point it was banned and the ban was pretty meaningless. Reddit gave them plenty of warnings that made it easy for them to figure out what was going to happen, since they've decided to ignore those warnings. Not the case with /r/donaldtrump, which was banned a day or two ago.

simlevesque 6y ago

Do you think they are not aware of that ? I think that they know and they think it's insignificant.

runarberg 6y ago

Good. Kick him of off the more popular platform and let him rot in the dirty corners of the internet. He and his followers can spew their racism all they want in some dirty unmoderated space where I and my friends don’t have to suffer for it. If they then use that platform to plan something dangerous and illegal, a competent law enforcement should be able to stop it and arrest them on grounds of conspiracy or hate speech.

annexrichmond 6y ago
How did the existence of his account on Twitter lead you and your friends to suffer? Can't you just block that account? > If they then use that platform to plan something dangerous and illegal, a competent law enforcement should be able to stop it and arrest them on grounds of conspiracy or hate speech. The same could be said if the account remained on Twitter. In fact, one could argue that's better platform for law enforcement to take action.
- runarberg 6y ago
  The harm is in exposing this toxic and racist rhetoric to my friends and family. This can be a) insulting and b) incite people we’re close to repeat and extend on this rhetoric. The further he is from the popular platform the less likely it is to happen to those close to me. The popular platforms are full of dog whistles and memeified hate speech as people moderate them self in order to make the content more palatable for the general public and prevent being kicked of the platform. In an unmoderated dark corner of the internet that is not necessary. So arguable twitter is a terrible place for law enforcement to hunt down racists and prevent their terrorism.
  - postalrat 6y ago
    This is how news networks like fox news become #1.
    - mkr-hn 6y ago
      The channel with an average of 3 million viewers at peak times? Cable news is not big. There are YouTubers I've never heard of who do a multiple of that on their videos. Don't mistake noise for influence.
      - postalrat 6y ago
        How many live youtube or twitch channels have 3 million viewers?

lumpenprole 6y ago

Yes, the best way to build trust is to act as a megaphone for Donald Trump.

dageshi 6y ago

Nope. They will never police themselves to the extent that they had too on reddit. Anyone stumbling into them who wasn't already heavily inclined to their cause will bounce off from the sheer nastiness of the place. Being on reddit forced them to tone down and memeify to the point where they were kinda entertaining in the beginning, that's what drew a lot of people in. thedonald.win will end up like another infowars or 4chan, that weird corner of the internet you visit occasionally to look at the weirdness but mostly avoid.

blisterpeanuts 6y ago
How exactly is TheDonald.win "sheer nasty"? Give some examples. I've perused that site and there's a lot of outrage at how the President has been treated, true, but I don't see much nasty. Then again, free speech can seem ugly, when you're used to a carefully curated kind of controlled speech.
- dageshi 6y ago
  Well I'd go check but the site seems to be down. Perhaps "nasty" is the wrong word, although I do think there's an element of that. More "delusional"? That is, so divorced from what I perceive as reality that anyone not already on that path is going to be utterly confused by what people there believe, like the other conspiracy-esque sites out there.
  - postalrat 6y ago
    It's not down. You do have to pass a captcha because all the crazies are targeting the site.
    - blisterpeanuts 6y ago
      It's back, as of 7:31 EST, and no captcha. But it's still very slow. But so is hacker news, at least for me. EDIT: oops, it's down at 7:33. I guess the landing page is up, but clicking on a discussion sends me back to a Cloudflare gateway timeout page.

tmpz22 6y ago

Having massive followings on fringe sites yields less legitimacy then having a massive following on one of the mainstays of the internet.

SquareWheel 6y ago

Didn't they create that website before they got banned?

input_sh 6y ago
Yes, long before. /r/t_d was pretty much dead at the point it was banned and the ban was pretty meaningless. Reddit gave them plenty of warnings that made it easy for them to figure out what was going to happen, since they've decided to ignore those warnings. Not the case with /r/donaldtrump, which was banned a day or two ago.