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Speed limits have no minimum because driving on a road is situational; bad weather, unfamiliarity with the road, new driver, bad driver, personal safety limits,

Speed limits have no minimum because driving on a road is situational; bad weather, unfamiliarity with the road, new driver, bad driver, personal safety limits, discrepancy in speedometers, and etc. How would you go about policing this? If there is traffic, everyone is driving under the minimum!

selectodude 6y ago
There are posted speed minimums on the tollways here in Chicago. You can't go below 45 in freeflowing traffic.
- mumblemumble 6y ago
  Explain that to all the people trying to merge at 35.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    I have no problem with semi trucks, overloaded scrap haulers, genuine shitboxes that can't floor it without something slipping and whatnot merging at low speeds. Everyone else has no excuse.
    - nradov 6y ago
      Those vehicles shouldn't be allowed on freeways in the first place. They can use surface streets.
hhh 6y ago
Stateside, many interstates have minimum speeds listed.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
Most states have a blanket law that 10/15/20 below the speed limit constitutes obstructing traffic and is usually a ticketable offense. In the digital age with sensors and data so cheap there's also no reason we can't set speed limits based on the Xth percentile everywhere with an automatic annual adjustment.
- vageli 6y ago
  > In the digital age with sensors and data so cheap there's also no reason we can't set speed limits based on the Xth percentile everywhere with an automatic annual adjustment. People tend to have an aversion to automation applied to law enforcement. See the criticism of red light cameras in the US.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    I'm advocating for automating the rules, not the enforcement. In most places speed limits would probably rise. My understanding is that some traffic light timings are already automated in this manner.
    - vageli 6y ago
      After rereading your comment I see where I misread, my apologies.
- conk 6y ago
  Ya, let’s implement speed limits based upon an known organizational issue that can result in catastrophic failure. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance
- pdpi 6y ago
  By definition, x percent of the people are below the xth percentile. That’s not a sane way to set limits
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    That sounds like a pretty sane way to set a limit that by definition should not be exceeded. It's also the way civil engineers recommend speed limits be set. I think the current number they use is 85th percentile.
    - 6y ago

selectodude 6y ago

There are posted speed minimums on the tollways here in Chicago. You can't go below 45 in freeflowing traffic.

mumblemumble 6y ago
Explain that to all the people trying to merge at 35.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  I have no problem with semi trucks, overloaded scrap haulers, genuine shitboxes that can't floor it without something slipping and whatnot merging at low speeds. Everyone else has no excuse.
  - nradov 6y ago
    Those vehicles shouldn't be allowed on freeways in the first place. They can use surface streets.

hhh 6y ago

Stateside, many interstates have minimum speeds listed.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

Most states have a blanket law that 10/15/20 below the speed limit constitutes obstructing traffic and is usually a ticketable offense. In the digital age with sensors and data so cheap there's also no reason we can't set speed limits based on the Xth percentile everywhere with an automatic annual adjustment.

vageli 6y ago
> In the digital age with sensors and data so cheap there's also no reason we can't set speed limits based on the Xth percentile everywhere with an automatic annual adjustment. People tend to have an aversion to automation applied to law enforcement. See the criticism of red light cameras in the US.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  I'm advocating for automating the rules, not the enforcement. In most places speed limits would probably rise. My understanding is that some traffic light timings are already automated in this manner.
  - vageli 6y ago
    After rereading your comment I see where I misread, my apologies.
conk 6y ago
Ya, let’s implement speed limits based upon an known organizational issue that can result in catastrophic failure. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_of_deviance
pdpi 6y ago
By definition, x percent of the people are below the xth percentile. That’s not a sane way to set limits
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  That sounds like a pretty sane way to set a limit that by definition should not be exceeded. It's also the way civil engineers recommend speed limits be set. I think the current number they use is 85th percentile.
  - 6y ago