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No thank you. Keep Google away from my television.

rchaud 6y ago
Dumb TVs are disappearing from store shelves. Unless you know of a repair shop or third party that sells old units, you may not have a choice in a year's time.
- DrPhish 6y ago
  I know this comes up every time there's a TV thread, so here's my tl;dr version... You can get a commercial unit (commonly called digital signage) that will both faithfully display your input signal and last for frickin' ever (built for huge 24x7 workloads in poor environmental conditions), but you _will_ pay more and you _will_ give up some creature comforts and consumer focused features along with getting rid of spying crapware
  - lozaning 6y ago
    These kinds of displays are increasingly becoming web managed. I don't think samsung actually even makes these kinds if displays that aren't web managed anymore.
  - maxsilver 6y ago
    Be careful with that. The most common commercial TV units run slightly-modified copies of consumer smart TV software too. (especially the units for digital signage, hospitality, and healthcare) For example, many of LG's commercial TV's run 'commercial' WebOS ("Pro:Centric"). Many of Samsung's commercial TV's run 'commercial' Tizen ("SMART and/or LYNK + REACH") You can still get dumb displays, especially if you ask for "monitors" instead of "televisions" or "digital signage". But it's getting way harder than it used to be, even if you exclusively look at the Commercial / Business models.
    - DrPhish 6y ago
      That's sad to hear. I've had good luck up to the past month with NEC. The 65" 4k display we bought for our boardroom is blessedly feature-free
- hyakosm 6y ago
  LG WebOS is a pretty good operating system for TVs.
  - Daho0n 6y ago
    So is Android but the problem is privacy in both Android and WebOS. My chromecast and my LG TV are competing for first place in number of blocked connections in my Pfsense log.
- gdulli 6y ago
  I'll take a Vizio TV with halfassed "smart" features I can leave unplugged from the network, but I have less trust in a Google or Roku branded TV where the smart features are front and center. A company that makes money from electronics and not data is less likely to force itself online.
hellweaver666 6y ago
I have a Philips TV that came with Google TV installed (or Android TV not sure if they're different) but it's horrible. Crashes all the time for no reason, at some point it got an update and half the functionality just vanished into thin air. I will NEVER buy another Google powered TV, heck I might never even buy another smart TV (unless Apple releases one, because my Apple TV 4k and HD before that have been flawless for my needs!)

Dumb TVs are disappearing from store shelves. Unless you know of a repair shop or third party that sells old units, you may not have a choice in a year's time.

DrPhish 6y ago
I know this comes up every time there's a TV thread, so here's my tl;dr version... You can get a commercial unit (commonly called digital signage) that will both faithfully display your input signal and last for frickin' ever (built for huge 24x7 workloads in poor environmental conditions), but you _will_ pay more and you _will_ give up some creature comforts and consumer focused features along with getting rid of spying crapware
- lozaning 6y ago
  These kinds of displays are increasingly becoming web managed. I don't think samsung actually even makes these kinds if displays that aren't web managed anymore.
- maxsilver 6y ago
  Be careful with that. The most common commercial TV units run slightly-modified copies of consumer smart TV software too. (especially the units for digital signage, hospitality, and healthcare) For example, many of LG's commercial TV's run 'commercial' WebOS ("Pro:Centric"). Many of Samsung's commercial TV's run 'commercial' Tizen ("SMART and/or LYNK + REACH") You can still get dumb displays, especially if you ask for "monitors" instead of "televisions" or "digital signage". But it's getting way harder than it used to be, even if you exclusively look at the Commercial / Business models.
  - DrPhish 6y ago
    That's sad to hear. I've had good luck up to the past month with NEC. The 65" 4k display we bought for our boardroom is blessedly feature-free
hyakosm 6y ago
LG WebOS is a pretty good operating system for TVs.
- Daho0n 6y ago
  So is Android but the problem is privacy in both Android and WebOS. My chromecast and my LG TV are competing for first place in number of blocked connections in my Pfsense log.
gdulli 6y ago
I'll take a Vizio TV with halfassed "smart" features I can leave unplugged from the network, but I have less trust in a Google or Roku branded TV where the smart features are front and center. A company that makes money from electronics and not data is less likely to force itself online.

hellweaver666 6y ago

I have a Philips TV that came with Google TV installed (or Android TV not sure if they're different) but it's horrible. Crashes all the time for no reason, at some point it got an update and half the functionality just vanished into thin air. I will NEVER buy another Google powered TV, heck I might never even buy another smart TV (unless Apple releases one, because my Apple TV 4k and HD before that have been flawless for my needs!)