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>at least 10-15 years between builds or upgrades. That wasn't realistic until very recently, after Moore's law completely died off, but I hope it becomes the s

>at least 10-15 years between builds or upgrades. That wasn't realistic until very recently, after Moore's law completely died off, but I hope it becomes the standard. I have an X220 from 2011, i7 processor & 8 gigs of RAM. I payed 180euros for it (best deal I ever made, I know) and I hope I can get 10 other years from it. It chokes on modern uberbloated webapps, but hey, it's not like I want to use those anyway. I built a gaming computer with an i5 and a gtx 1070 in 2016, and unless I decide to go for something else than 60fps & FHD resolution I still max out every game I play. I don't see myself upgrading in the next 3 years at least. Before that I had a crappy computer built out of low-range parts from 2010, and it was perfect until Dark Souls 3.

grishka 6y ago
I have a 2012 Macbook Pro that's still okay for most of what I do with it, including Android app development. Though the Nvidia GPU driver is terrible and leaks memory copiously, and that's annoying. Web apps are sometimes sluggish, but I got used to the fact that modern web just can't be fast on any hardware unless done by people who know what they're doing which is rare. I'm looking forward to whatever the refined and beefed up M1 successor would be. That would probably last me another decade if not more.
- asdff 6y ago
  I had to abandon my 2012 macbook pro for a new intel mac earlier in the year after it was overheating and killing keyboard and trackpad input during zoom calls, but before our modern zoom based world, what a beast that computer was. Perfectly performant for typical tasks, unlike computers of old that would struggle to run the latest OS after four years. I'm eyeing the ARM macs, but I think it would serve me well to wait at least two years for software to become more compatible and kinks worked out. People in my field have been having some issues with ARM and rosetta2, even having to return laptops.
  - grishka 6y ago
    Hm. Mine handles zoom calls just fine, including the background replacement thing. Sure, the fans do spin up a bit, but that's about it.
    - asdff 6y ago
      I think it was the battery swelling and affecting the top case more than anything. trackpad has long been cracked.
hotcrossbunny 6y ago
+1 for the i7 x220. I paid £150 for mine a couple of years ago for what I thought would be a throwaway bit of kit at end of life for an experimental Linux build. But what I found was the sheer utility of the thing has been unmatched by any more recent hardware purchase.
iuguy 6y ago
> I have an X220 from 2011 Sounds like you're in good company. The author recently upgraded from a 2015 Mac to a heavily modded X230[1]. [1] - https://thedorkweb.substack.com/p/everything-but-the-kitchen-sync https://thedorkweb.substack.com/p/everything-but-the-kitchen...
anderspitman 6y ago
I was fortunate enough to buy an x220 in 2011. Don't use it much these days since I have newer machines available (though one of them is also sandy bridge), but it's still perfectly serviceable and to this day my favorite keyboard ever on a laptop.

grishka 6y ago

I have a 2012 Macbook Pro that's still okay for most of what I do with it, including Android app development. Though the Nvidia GPU driver is terrible and leaks memory copiously, and that's annoying. Web apps are sometimes sluggish, but I got used to the fact that modern web just can't be fast on any hardware unless done by people who know what they're doing which is rare. I'm looking forward to whatever the refined and beefed up M1 successor would be. That would probably last me another decade if not more.

asdff 6y ago
I had to abandon my 2012 macbook pro for a new intel mac earlier in the year after it was overheating and killing keyboard and trackpad input during zoom calls, but before our modern zoom based world, what a beast that computer was. Perfectly performant for typical tasks, unlike computers of old that would struggle to run the latest OS after four years. I'm eyeing the ARM macs, but I think it would serve me well to wait at least two years for software to become more compatible and kinks worked out. People in my field have been having some issues with ARM and rosetta2, even having to return laptops.
- grishka 6y ago
  Hm. Mine handles zoom calls just fine, including the background replacement thing. Sure, the fans do spin up a bit, but that's about it.
  - asdff 6y ago
    I think it was the battery swelling and affecting the top case more than anything. trackpad has long been cracked.

hotcrossbunny 6y ago

+1 for the i7 x220. I paid £150 for mine a couple of years ago for what I thought would be a throwaway bit of kit at end of life for an experimental Linux build. But what I found was the sheer utility of the thing has been unmatched by any more recent hardware purchase.

iuguy 6y ago

> I have an X220 from 2011 Sounds like you're in good company. The author recently upgraded from a 2015 Mac to a heavily modded X230[1]. [1] - https://thedorkweb.substack.com/p/everything-but-the-kitchen-sync https://thedorkweb.substack.com/p/everything-but-the-kitchen...

anderspitman 6y ago

I was fortunate enough to buy an x220 in 2011. Don't use it much these days since I have newer machines available (though one of them is also sandy bridge), but it's still perfectly serviceable and to this day my favorite keyboard ever on a laptop.