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Setting User-Agent Field? (1996)
- laszlolm 6y agoEDIT: The email checks out too, page@cs.stanford.edu so it's likely him To anyone coming here, it's not verified if he's the same Larry Page, but the date and name + topic checks out
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- elvis70 6y agoIt's him.
- hundchenkatze 6y agoNow I'm convinced! Thanks.
- elvis70 6y agoI just wanted to reassure the OP. This was posted a zillion times all over the Internet.
- EamonnMR 6y agoWonder how that would fare on stack overflow today.
- jasode 6y agoNot exactly the same question but similar questions on the same topic: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2533236/setting-user-agent-in-java-httpclient-and-allow-redirects-to-true/2533245 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2533236/setting-user-age... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2529682/setting-user-agent-of-a-java-urlconnection https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2529682/setting-user-age... In my experience, if you ask a straightforward question that doesn't require answers in the form of opinion/debate, you'll get answers.
- toper-centage 6y agoIn my experience, you would get tagged as duplicate with a tangentially related question in 2 seconds.
- frouge 6y agoIs Google a good net citizen now?
- geoduck14 6y agoI guess he never read the reply to the question he posted
- rbinv 6y agoToday, Google even crawls, renders and indexes URLs sent from Chrome browsers via dial-up IPs using regular browser User-agents, so... no. Other than that, Googlebot seems to obey most of the time. I don't blame them. Cloaking couldn't be detected otherwise.
- toper-centage 6y agoI think i read somewhere that Google crawlers sometimes pretend to be real browsers to prevent you from displaying a different page the crawler. So, no.
- z240 6y agoGoogle no longer just "crawls" in the sort of general way that crawlers work to populate its search index, but also "scrapes", - that is to say they seek out specific information from some websites in order to display their data in the Google answer box, instead of directing you to their website to get that information. While not illegal, I think it is unethical and breaks the symbiosis that their search engine had with the web.
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y agoI don't think it could be solved globally; local jurisdictions like the EU will need to deal with this issue sooner or later. I think American companies can try to lobby against it too, because Google abuses its enormous power to eliminate competition in various markets (product price comparison etc.). There are many American companies operating in this space. Google's strategy is to steal it slowly piece by piece and it looks like they're getting more and more bold.
- pulse7 6y agoIs Larry Page still writing programs in Java?
- cmrdporcupine 6y agoSomething about looking at that... strange feeling ... realizing that I too was programming for the Internet in 1996, and I could have asked the same type of question, in the same year, etc. But in the intervening years Larry Page became a billionaire and is actually my employer, while I'm an aging pudgy programmer posting on hackernews. Y'know what I'm saying? The passage of time is weird. Ok, finishing my coffee now.
- geoduck14 6y agoI think what I'm hearing is that I just found Lawrence Page's HN account
- msoad 6y agoI get the feeling. I too, feel I "could've" done things differently. Here is my question to you: Did you also go to Stanford and have an influential circle of friends? Just asking to see if you two were actually in similar boats. I'm not discounting what Larry Page has done. I'm saying he had the tools to build Google. So many others had and didn't but not every programmer in 1996 had.
- cmrdporcupine 6y agoYeah I'm not suffering under the illusion I could have been him. In 1996 I was a drop-out philosophy student who got web-programming jobs through a friend who saw my potential and I moved out to Toronto to try to make a go of it, got caught up in rave culture, etc instead of focusing well on my career. My programming interest was in the MUDs/MOOs and the potential for that kind of synchronoius multiuser environment; not the web (which I was only into because that's where the $$ was and it kind of sucked then.) Then as now I didn't/don't have the personality type to be an entrepreneur or manager of that kind of stuff. It's just interesting to look back at those early days and think of how green field it all was, and how there was at least the semblance of opportunity. But as you point out, it wasn't really a level playing field either.
- davidg109 6y agoWe still love you.
- pyuser583 6y agoSo what’s the answer?
- santiagobasulto 6y agoI think Joe Millar deserves a few Google shares
- zaczekadam 6y agoThat's so neat! I'd sometimes wonder if founders of Google etc. knew how their software worked during early years. Thanks for posting, seriously!
- raverbashing 6y agoThe weirdest thing for me is Java 1.0 beta. I suppose this might have been something not for general consumption (but it was already been used in academic settings?)
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- myth_drannon 6y agoIn 1997 I was taking a first year intro to comp-sci in an Israeli university and Java was the language we did the assignments. It was pretty solid and wide spread back then, version 1 I guess. My high school was still teaching Pascal and Cobol...
- philjackson 6y agoPet project. It'll amount to nothing.
- opportune 6y agoWhy would I use google when I can just wget | grep from the command line?
- cpach 6y agoBefore Google we used Altavista :)
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y agoIt will never be big and professional like GNU.
- arnaudsm 6y agoPrevious discussion : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8587697 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8587697
- mannykannot 6y agoWhile the re-titling of this repost (leaving out Larry Page's name) is in accordance with HN's norms, I suspect it will lead to it being skipped by many who would otherwise find it interesting.
- laszlolm 6y agoLooking at the replies it looks like it brought value to the people with Larry's name in the title, this way even if you knew what you were looking for it'd be difficult to find why this post exists here from 1996
- elvis70 6y agoRelated: Amazon's first job posting by Jeff Bezos http://www.ngrblog.com/amazon-usenet-post/ http://www.ngrblog.com/amazon-usenet-post/
- marvinblum 6y ago"and you should be able to do so in one-third the time that most competent people think possible" Wow...
- fnord77 6y agothat signature quote... wow
- tsar_nikolai 6y ago> Your compensation will include meaningful equity ownership quite an understatement there