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> everyone hates the umpire. I'd say @dang is pretty liked around here! Ups to the great umpire, keep it up. This shit is hard.
by skrebbel 6y ago
> everyone hates the umpire.
I'd say @dang is pretty liked around here! Ups to the great umpire, keep it up. This shit is hard.
- FriendlyNormie 6y agoYou just randomly brought him up and then immediately shoved his dick into your mouth. What’s wrong with you? No one likes a sycophant.
- nindalf 6y agoHe is, but maybe there’s some survivorship bias there. We can’t really ask the shadowbanned people what they think of the moderation because they’re shadowbanned.
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- shard972 6y agodang has an ego problem at times, but yep im shadowbanned so i guess bias
- szatkus 6y agoYou can turn on dead comments in your preferences and see all the nice things they have to say.
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoMost of the things they have to say are reasonable most of the time. Like mundane comments about programming languages and whatnot. I think they would be pretty pissed off to know that they've been banned for months or more because they said something that rubbed the mods the wrong way at one point.
- stefantalpalaru 6y ago> I think they would be pretty pissed off to know that they've been banned for months or more because they said something that rubbed the mods the wrong way at one point. We know, but some of us enjoy reminding Ian Murdock's friends-in-need of what they did. Preferably before it's their turn to ask for help...
- oefrha 6y ago> We can’t really ask the shadowbanned people what they think of the moderation because they’re shadowbanned. Just flip the showdead switch in settings and you can enjoy the infinite wisdom and feistiness of banned users. Can’t be easier. For instance, in this thread there’s exactly one banned sibling, making a gross, sexual personal attack.
- nindalf 6y agoWe don't know what they think of the moderation though. These folks aren't bright enough to know that they've been banned.
- hef19898 6y agoWhich always puzzles me. I have showdead on, just to get the whole picture. And because it is sometimes hilarious, to be honest. But how an you not realize you have been banned, when everyone on here is talking about it?
- oefrha 6y agoModerator-banned accounts usually get a moderation comment announcing they are banned. There are accounts killed by software though.
- dan-robertson 6y agoFar fewer people are shadowbanned these days. And I think if people are commenting reasonably without realising they are shadowbanned, dang will try to get in touch to let them know they are banned.
- h0l0cube 6y agoI don't think the incendiary rhetoric of most of Twitter (let alone Trump) would pass muster with HN moderation. Edit: People downvoting me even though I'm right. Take most of the comments you see on Twitter in subject matter and/or delivery, and they would be either downvoted or moderated off this platform. No-one in good faith (who has had reasonable exposure to Twitter) could argue this is not the case. Just to be clear, I believe this to be a good thing.
- loyukfai 6y agoHN is a much more civilized place compared to the wild west.
- colejohnson66 6y agoCould that just be a size thing? I remember Twitter being a lot more sane place before it was overrun by politics a few years ago. Or maybe the algorithm was better at keeping that stuff away?
- tpxl 6y agoIt is a size thing, but it's also a moderation thing. I haven't seen moderation this good anywhere else, no matter the size.
- woofie11 6y agoI think large scale makes it impossible to be good. Small scale doesn't guarantee good. Reddit, slashdot, and a whole slew of others went through an HN-like phase of high-quality discussions and content before turning into cesspools. I think what makes HN unique is benevolent sponsorship. There isn't pressure to grow. It's recruiting for Y-Combinator, which eliminates most of the normal pressures.
- froseph 6y agoMy favorite article on the life cycle (growth & collapse) of online communities is “Attacked from Within”* from the old kuro5hin site. I’ve always been curious to how it’s suggested solutions to the moderation problem would turn out. * Archived here: http://atdt.freeshell.org/k5/story_2009_3_12_33338_3000.html http://atdt.freeshell.org/k5/story_2009_3_12_33338_3000.html
- dan-robertson 6y agoIt wasn’t so long ago (less than 10 years, perhaps more than 5) that HN was full of similarly bad comments
- CJefferson 6y agoI don't want to blame @dang for this, but I see plenty of people talking about the toxic content of "The orange website", and several people have bothered to explicitly block links from here.
- ZephyrBlu 6y agoReally? What makes someone view HN as "toxic content"?