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I still copy-paste into Notepad to remove formatting. Even that fails on Win10 if you used, eg, non-breaking hyphens ... thought I was going mad; no, just MS Wi

I still copy-paste into Notepad to remove formatting. Even that fails on Win10 if you used, eg, non-breaking hyphens ... thought I was going mad; no, just MS Windows doing its thing. I've returned to MSWord after 15 years, it still seems incapable of doing numbered lists consistently. Would love some 'reveal codes' for that.

bagpuss 6y ago
ctrl+shift+v strips formatting yet I still find myself doing the notepad thing you describe.
- ryandrake 6y ago
  In a just world, CTRL-v would paste without formatting, and the more difficult CTRL-SHIFT-v would retain formatting. The vastly more desired (by users, not by product managers) operation should be invoked by the simpler keystroke. How often do you cut and paste and actually want to bring over someone else’s colors and fonts? 1% of the time? 0.1%?
  - jsight 6y ago
    Probably more like 50% of the time for me. Copying code with formatting from an IDE to Google Docs is amazingly useful.
- philsnow 6y ago
  "paste with formatting" by default is a mistake. the thing you're pasting from and the thing you're pasting to inevitably have different ideas about what formatting is relevant / possible in the given textareas you're copying from / pasting to. it's almost always better to just paste without formatting and then fix formatting (so, the default should have been flipped, but the ship has sailed). I played around with using hammerspoon to send cmd-shift-v whenever I typed cmd-v but I really needed to make it change depending on which app I was pasting into and that was just past my annoyance threshold.
- pbhjpbhj 6y ago
  Isn't it ctrl+alt+v? only seems to work in a few cases, not as a generic. Between OneNote and Word it only works in one direction IIRC, and I can never remember which way. around.
baud147258 6y ago
when copying from a browser, I usually just paste/copy from the address bar (using Alt-D to quickly go there), saves me from locating notepad.

bagpuss 6y ago

ctrl+shift+v strips formatting yet I still find myself doing the notepad thing you describe.

ryandrake 6y ago
In a just world, CTRL-v would paste without formatting, and the more difficult CTRL-SHIFT-v would retain formatting. The vastly more desired (by users, not by product managers) operation should be invoked by the simpler keystroke. How often do you cut and paste and actually want to bring over someone else’s colors and fonts? 1% of the time? 0.1%?
- jsight 6y ago
  Probably more like 50% of the time for me. Copying code with formatting from an IDE to Google Docs is amazingly useful.
philsnow 6y ago
"paste with formatting" by default is a mistake. the thing you're pasting from and the thing you're pasting to inevitably have different ideas about what formatting is relevant / possible in the given textareas you're copying from / pasting to. it's almost always better to just paste without formatting and then fix formatting (so, the default should have been flipped, but the ship has sailed). I played around with using hammerspoon to send cmd-shift-v whenever I typed cmd-v but I really needed to make it change depending on which app I was pasting into and that was just past my annoyance threshold.
pbhjpbhj 6y ago
Isn't it ctrl+alt+v? only seems to work in a few cases, not as a generic. Between OneNote and Word it only works in one direction IIRC, and I can never remember which way. around.

baud147258 6y ago

when copying from a browser, I usually just paste/copy from the address bar (using Alt-D to quickly go there), saves me from locating notepad.