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Enjoyed the PIN .svg, but those old Turbo IDE screens got me right in the feels. Never used Turbo 7...Turbo 3 was the bomb back in the day. And yes, WordPerfe

Enjoyed the PIN .svg, but those old Turbo IDE screens got me right in the feels. Never used Turbo 7...Turbo 3 was the bomb back in the day. And yes, WordPerfect... those old enough remember "Reveal Codes" Why did we like this?

unbalancedevh 6y ago
F3-F3 was your friend!
jsight 6y ago
Today I still prefer my editors to let me edit the HTML directly. I'm not sure that we've changed away from liking this.
msmith 6y ago
Turbo Pascal 7 was my intro to programming and it was such a great learning environment
taeric 6y ago
Reveal codes is still hella nice. Have the reason I hate Word is because I have no way of knowing why it made a change sometimes. At least with TeX, I can see all of the commands. Word? Best I can hope is I saw it make the change and that undo actually works.
- andrewla 6y ago
  The loss of "reveal codes" is the greatest tragedy of the fall of Wordperfect. For me there was nothing more satisfying than cleaning up a bunch of empty "bold" blocks that had started to clutter up the text and would cause text to mysteriously embolden if inserted in the wrong place. In Google Docs a number of times I've had to copy my text out to a temporary notepad to remove formatting and re-paste it in the original doc because for some reason it was starting a numbered list over again at 1 and there was no way to convince it that it's all part of the same list.
  - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
    I still copy-paste into Notepad to remove formatting. Even that fails on Win10 if you used, eg, non-breaking hyphens ... thought I was going mad; no, just MS Windows doing its thing. I've returned to MSWord after 15 years, it still seems incapable of doing numbered lists consistently. Would love some 'reveal codes' for that.
    - bagpuss 6y ago
      ctrl+shift+v strips formatting yet I still find myself doing the notepad thing you describe.
      - ryandrake 6y ago
        In a just world, CTRL-v would paste without formatting, and the more difficult CTRL-SHIFT-v would retain formatting. The vastly more desired (by users, not by product managers) operation should be invoked by the simpler keystroke. How often do you cut and paste and actually want to bring over someone else’s colors and fonts? 1% of the time? 0.1%?
        jsight 6y ago
        Probably more like 50% of the time for me. Copying code with formatting from an IDE to Google Docs is amazingly useful.
      - philsnow 6y ago
        "paste with formatting" by default is a mistake. the thing you're pasting from and the thing you're pasting to inevitably have different ideas about what formatting is relevant / possible in the given textareas you're copying from / pasting to. it's almost always better to just paste without formatting and then fix formatting (so, the default should have been flipped, but the ship has sailed). I played around with using hammerspoon to send cmd-shift-v whenever I typed cmd-v but I really needed to make it change depending on which app I was pasting into and that was just past my annoyance threshold.
      - 6y ago
- bluedino 6y ago
  There is a show/hide button on the default ribbon in Word 2019 that will show you the hidden formatting codes
  - relaxing 6y ago
    Unfortunately this only shows things like paragraph markers and tab characters, not all formatting. It doesn’t help resolve, for instance, why only the top level number of my numbered list is displaying as a black box.
- jmkb 6y ago
  The closest thing to "reveal codes" in Word is to save as .rtf and open in a text editor. But you're in for a wild ride.
Minor49er 6y ago
Borland Turbo C++ 3.0 was my jam. Not only was the interface really cool and feature-rich, but it also had a built-in language reference that was incredibly helpful to me at the time when I was learning to program.
sedatk 6y ago
Yes, TP7 had syntax highlighting too!

unbalancedevh 6y ago

F3-F3 was your friend!

jsight 6y ago

Today I still prefer my editors to let me edit the HTML directly. I'm not sure that we've changed away from liking this.

msmith 6y ago

Turbo Pascal 7 was my intro to programming and it was such a great learning environment

taeric 6y ago

Reveal codes is still hella nice. Have the reason I hate Word is because I have no way of knowing why it made a change sometimes. At least with TeX, I can see all of the commands. Word? Best I can hope is I saw it make the change and that undo actually works.

andrewla 6y ago
The loss of "reveal codes" is the greatest tragedy of the fall of Wordperfect. For me there was nothing more satisfying than cleaning up a bunch of empty "bold" blocks that had started to clutter up the text and would cause text to mysteriously embolden if inserted in the wrong place. In Google Docs a number of times I've had to copy my text out to a temporary notepad to remove formatting and re-paste it in the original doc because for some reason it was starting a numbered list over again at 1 and there was no way to convince it that it's all part of the same list.
- pbhjpbhj 6y ago
  I still copy-paste into Notepad to remove formatting. Even that fails on Win10 if you used, eg, non-breaking hyphens ... thought I was going mad; no, just MS Windows doing its thing. I've returned to MSWord after 15 years, it still seems incapable of doing numbered lists consistently. Would love some 'reveal codes' for that.
  - bagpuss 6y ago
    ctrl+shift+v strips formatting yet I still find myself doing the notepad thing you describe.
    - ryandrake 6y ago
      In a just world, CTRL-v would paste without formatting, and the more difficult CTRL-SHIFT-v would retain formatting. The vastly more desired (by users, not by product managers) operation should be invoked by the simpler keystroke. How often do you cut and paste and actually want to bring over someone else’s colors and fonts? 1% of the time? 0.1%?
      - jsight 6y ago
        Probably more like 50% of the time for me. Copying code with formatting from an IDE to Google Docs is amazingly useful.
    - philsnow 6y ago
      "paste with formatting" by default is a mistake. the thing you're pasting from and the thing you're pasting to inevitably have different ideas about what formatting is relevant / possible in the given textareas you're copying from / pasting to. it's almost always better to just paste without formatting and then fix formatting (so, the default should have been flipped, but the ship has sailed). I played around with using hammerspoon to send cmd-shift-v whenever I typed cmd-v but I really needed to make it change depending on which app I was pasting into and that was just past my annoyance threshold.
    - 6y ago
bluedino 6y ago
There is a show/hide button on the default ribbon in Word 2019 that will show you the hidden formatting codes
- relaxing 6y ago
  Unfortunately this only shows things like paragraph markers and tab characters, not all formatting. It doesn’t help resolve, for instance, why only the top level number of my numbered list is displaying as a black box.
jmkb 6y ago
The closest thing to "reveal codes" in Word is to save as .rtf and open in a text editor. But you're in for a wild ride.

Minor49er 6y ago

Borland Turbo C++ 3.0 was my jam. Not only was the interface really cool and feature-rich, but it also had a built-in language reference that was incredibly helpful to me at the time when I was learning to program.

sedatk 6y ago

Yes, TP7 had syntax highlighting too!