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And that is why you should read the text of the laws that you vote for.

toomuchtodo 6y ago
California voters seem happy to keep voting themselves destructive legislation regardless of long term consequences. Vote with your feet.
- superflit 6y ago
  But remember when you “vote with your feet” that you are a refugee not a missionary. Dont vote for the same things that made you left on your new place!
  - TulliusCicero 6y ago
    > But remember when you “vote with your feet” that you are a refugee not a missionary. You're actually neither of these things.
  - mc32 6y ago
    Oregon! But yeah, I agree. Don't try to institute the same policies in your new state which lead to your decision to eventually leave your old state.
    - Mountain_Skies 6y ago
      Problem is that many who are moving aren't giving a whole lot of thought as to why California has had such a large reduction in quality of life. They simply know QoL has declined to a level where they want to be somewhere else. They may have different theories as to why QoL tanked, some might even know that some of the policies they voted for had a hand in it while believing that they simply weren't implemented well in California but think "we'll get it right this time" in their new home state.
      - metabagel 6y ago
        Quality of life in California is grand if you don’t factor in the high cost of living, which is primarily due to land being expensive. California is a victim of its own success and of its bad zoning laws and nimbyism.
d2v 6y ago
Or we should make it so companies can't write an unrepealable law and then dump hundreds of millions of dollars into a disinformation campaign to get it passed. Both are probably wishful thinking though.
- bpodgursky 6y ago
  It's repealable the same way it was passed: by popular vote.
  - bryan_w 6y ago
    Seems like @d2v has fallen for some misinformation. They think this law is "unrepealable" which doesn't even make sense if you take half a second to think about it. Kinda says more about them than anything else I guess.
    - _hyrb 6y ago
      > Kinda says more about them than anything else I guess. Shit that's deep I'ma have to think on this one.
Rebelgecko 6y ago
The game Kingdom of Loathing had (has?) a short literacy test that you had to take before using the ingame chat function. A part of me wishes that there was a similar test that you had to take before making claims about a law online. It wouldn't be practical for things like the latest omnibus COVID stimulus bill, but Prop 22 is only ~15 pages. I've seen so many people spreading FUD about Prop 22. It's obvious when someone is just regurgitating something they saw elsewhere and saying things that are contradicted by the actual text of the proposition.

California voters seem happy to keep voting themselves destructive legislation regardless of long term consequences. Vote with your feet.

superflit 6y ago
But remember when you “vote with your feet” that you are a refugee not a missionary. Dont vote for the same things that made you left on your new place!
- TulliusCicero 6y ago
  > But remember when you “vote with your feet” that you are a refugee not a missionary. You're actually neither of these things.
- mc32 6y ago
  Oregon! But yeah, I agree. Don't try to institute the same policies in your new state which lead to your decision to eventually leave your old state.
  - Mountain_Skies 6y ago
    Problem is that many who are moving aren't giving a whole lot of thought as to why California has had such a large reduction in quality of life. They simply know QoL has declined to a level where they want to be somewhere else. They may have different theories as to why QoL tanked, some might even know that some of the policies they voted for had a hand in it while believing that they simply weren't implemented well in California but think "we'll get it right this time" in their new home state.
    - metabagel 6y ago
      Quality of life in California is grand if you don’t factor in the high cost of living, which is primarily due to land being expensive. California is a victim of its own success and of its bad zoning laws and nimbyism.

d2v 6y ago

Or we should make it so companies can't write an unrepealable law and then dump hundreds of millions of dollars into a disinformation campaign to get it passed. Both are probably wishful thinking though.

bpodgursky 6y ago
It's repealable the same way it was passed: by popular vote.
- bryan_w 6y ago
  Seems like @d2v has fallen for some misinformation. They think this law is "unrepealable" which doesn't even make sense if you take half a second to think about it. Kinda says more about them than anything else I guess.
  - _hyrb 6y ago
    > Kinda says more about them than anything else I guess. Shit that's deep I'ma have to think on this one.

Rebelgecko 6y ago

The game Kingdom of Loathing had (has?) a short literacy test that you had to take before using the ingame chat function. A part of me wishes that there was a similar test that you had to take before making claims about a law online. It wouldn't be practical for things like the latest omnibus COVID stimulus bill, but Prop 22 is only ~15 pages. I've seen so many people spreading FUD about Prop 22. It's obvious when someone is just regurgitating something they saw elsewhere and saying things that are contradicted by the actual text of the proposition.