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I don't know what country in eastern europe finds 27kUSD / year "exceptionally good". Developers in east europe earning such amounts are junior level as wages a

I don't know what country in eastern europe finds 27kUSD / year "exceptionally good". Developers in east europe earning such amounts are junior level as wages are going up as a result of western clients / employers finding they deliver higher quality work than say india, or pakistan. Most people I know in the area, with senior level experience, are at around double that figure. If you factor in ever growing demand for software engineers in the EU then wages are going to go up even higher.

gambiting 6y ago
That's nearly 10k PLN/month. My accountant with 20 years experience makes less than 3k PLN/month. 10k/month here is very very good money, our prime minister only makes about 15k/month and our president makes 17k/month in comparison. 10k might be a little bit tighter in Warsaw but live literally anywhere else and you will be paid more than 99% of people around you.
- n0tsurey4 6y ago
  That's not how you measure your worth, but i'll take it you don't have much experience on the topic - with all due respect - and that explains the low income compared to peers from your country.
  - gambiting 6y ago
    >>That's not how you measure your worth How do you measure it then. Because the textbook definition is "you're worth as much as the market will bear". Which is exactly what I'm talking about - do you disagree? And why would I have little experience on the topic? I worked abroad, I worked in high and low income regions - the market forces work exactly the same way everywhere.
    - n0tsurey4 6y ago
      Nah, you are measuring your worth against accounts and prime ministers. Instead you should measure your worth against market and the position within that market. Anyway, enjoy your 27k while your peers earn double that.
      - gambiting 6y ago
        But the whole point is that they don't. Computer programmers don't generally earn much more than that in Poland, that's why it's a median value. So exactly like what you and I said....it's what the market will bear. I only brought up my accountant and prime minister to give people from outside of Poland some idea what the wages are like. So I have no idea what you're talking about, but I also guess you don't either.

gambiting 6y ago

That's nearly 10k PLN/month. My accountant with 20 years experience makes less than 3k PLN/month. 10k/month here is very very good money, our prime minister only makes about 15k/month and our president makes 17k/month in comparison. 10k might be a little bit tighter in Warsaw but live literally anywhere else and you will be paid more than 99% of people around you.

n0tsurey4 6y ago
That's not how you measure your worth, but i'll take it you don't have much experience on the topic - with all due respect - and that explains the low income compared to peers from your country.
- gambiting 6y ago
  >>That's not how you measure your worth How do you measure it then. Because the textbook definition is "you're worth as much as the market will bear". Which is exactly what I'm talking about - do you disagree? And why would I have little experience on the topic? I worked abroad, I worked in high and low income regions - the market forces work exactly the same way everywhere.
  - n0tsurey4 6y ago
    Nah, you are measuring your worth against accounts and prime ministers. Instead you should measure your worth against market and the position within that market. Anyway, enjoy your 27k while your peers earn double that.
    - gambiting 6y ago
      But the whole point is that they don't. Computer programmers don't generally earn much more than that in Poland, that's why it's a median value. So exactly like what you and I said....it's what the market will bear. I only brought up my accountant and prime minister to give people from outside of Poland some idea what the wages are like. So I have no idea what you're talking about, but I also guess you don't either.