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The whole BLM movement is important but racial and gender discrimination flows both ways, and what Erica puts forward is exactly that - Discrimination based on

by sanguy 6y ago

The whole BLM movement is important but racial and gender discrimination flows both ways, and what Erica puts forward is exactly that - Discrimination based on gender and color. We really need to move past having gender/color/religion/sexual preference matter in how people are accepted and treated in society, and the workplace. These things should not, and truly do not matter. What she is suggesting does not move us forward. It just encourages an escalation of the tension already present which doesn't end well for anyone. I hope 2021 we figure out how to stop the hate and move forward to focus on problems that should unite us and not divide us.

mytailorisrich 6y ago
> We really need to move past having gender/color/religion/sexual preference matter in how people are accepted and treated in society, and the workplace. These things should not, and truly do not matter. Absolutely. Her 'proposal' is very plainly unacceptable and indeed illegal in Europe (not sure in the US)
- pelasaco 6y ago
  I'm not sure that's illegal in Europe unless it's driven by native Europeans.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    Not sure how to interpret your comment, but it is indeed very clearly illegal in Europe where anti-discrimination laws (at EU and national levels) explicitly state that it is illegal to treat people in a worse way on the ground of gender or race, which is exactly what she is calling for. If she really wanted to promote diversity she could simply have called for people to encourage diverse teams.
    - pelasaco 6y ago
      I'm not sure how her 'proposal' will workout for solo white male entrepreneurs (i.e indie game developers).
      - Arnt 6y ago
        Big companies like Microsoft or Github don't usually put noticeable effort into helping those, so what difference does that make? I note, though, that among the companies I've known well is one where the first 100+ male employees got an options package and no female employees did in the same period. That company would pass Erica's test. Rightly? I think not, and I don't know many companies, so I'm a bit suspicious about the accuracy of her approximation.
core-questions 6y ago
> hope 2021 we figure out how to stop the hate Influential people have spent the last ten years actively working on ways to remove the small progress towards a more colourblind world that was made in the 90s and 00s. Engendering hate and race-based conflict through rhetoric has been their modus operandi, and the rise in violence, protesting, and division is the direct result. I don't think anyone important is going to push for a unification effort that offers White people a way to be part of the fold without having to hate ourselves, which is not something any self-respecting person should accept. White people who push anti-White rhetoric are detestable and nobody really likes them, on either side; they are merely apparatchiks and useful idiots that sow division and damage their own legacy.
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  They have nurtured a victim mentality and had nobody honest in their lives to call them out on the stuff they try to peddle. A serious step backwards.
sanguy 6y ago
EDIT -- Appears she is no longer with Github although her personal page https://www.ericabaker.com https://www.ericabaker.com still indicates she is the director of engineering.

by sanguy 6y ago

mytailorisrich 6y ago

> We really need to move past having gender/color/religion/sexual preference matter in how people are accepted and treated in society, and the workplace. These things should not, and truly do not matter. Absolutely. Her 'proposal' is very plainly unacceptable and indeed illegal in Europe (not sure in the US)

pelasaco 6y ago
I'm not sure that's illegal in Europe unless it's driven by native Europeans.
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  Not sure how to interpret your comment, but it is indeed very clearly illegal in Europe where anti-discrimination laws (at EU and national levels) explicitly state that it is illegal to treat people in a worse way on the ground of gender or race, which is exactly what she is calling for. If she really wanted to promote diversity she could simply have called for people to encourage diverse teams.
  - pelasaco 6y ago
    I'm not sure how her 'proposal' will workout for solo white male entrepreneurs (i.e indie game developers).
    - Arnt 6y ago
      Big companies like Microsoft or Github don't usually put noticeable effort into helping those, so what difference does that make? I note, though, that among the companies I've known well is one where the first 100+ male employees got an options package and no female employees did in the same period. That company would pass Erica's test. Rightly? I think not, and I don't know many companies, so I'm a bit suspicious about the accuracy of her approximation.

core-questions 6y ago

> hope 2021 we figure out how to stop the hate Influential people have spent the last ten years actively working on ways to remove the small progress towards a more colourblind world that was made in the 90s and 00s. Engendering hate and race-based conflict through rhetoric has been their modus operandi, and the rise in violence, protesting, and division is the direct result. I don't think anyone important is going to push for a unification effort that offers White people a way to be part of the fold without having to hate ourselves, which is not something any self-respecting person should accept. White people who push anti-White rhetoric are detestable and nobody really likes them, on either side; they are merely apparatchiks and useful idiots that sow division and damage their own legacy.

raxxorrax 6y ago
They have nurtured a victim mentality and had nobody honest in their lives to call them out on the stuff they try to peddle. A serious step backwards.

sanguy 6y ago

EDIT -- Appears she is no longer with Github although her personal page https://www.ericabaker.com https://www.ericabaker.com still indicates she is the director of engineering.