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Can we stop endlessly puting Apple's various authoritarians missteps under the spotlight? It's been literally decades now, we know they can and will do whatever
by leppr 6y ago
Can we stop endlessly puting Apple's various authoritarians missteps under the spotlight? It's been literally decades now, we know they can and will do whatever they want in their walled garden. Stop giving them attention. Complaining clearly does not work, if you want to make a difference, change platforms. Nobody is forcing you to develop for Apple.
- dane-pgp 6y agoDo you similarly think that American newspapers should stop publishing articles about China's various authoritarian missteps? You could just ignore articles that don't interest you, and you certainly don't need to go to the trouble of commenting on them, although I support your efforts to encourage people to change platform (and reduce their customer base by half).
- reaperducer 6y agoAre you seriously equating a company choosing not to host an app with the genocidal policies of a communist government?
- dane-pgp 6y agoI'm not equating Apple's policies with China's, I'm just trying to understand if "Complaining clearly does not work" is a good enough justification for preventing people from learning about bad policies. Perhaps the argument is that people have a duty to learn about genocides going on in the world, whereas there is no moral imperative to learn about bad policies of tech companies, but by that logic nearly every discussion on this site should be removed.
- alisonkisk 6y agoHN is not a newspaper.
- DoofusOfDeath 6y agoApple is under heightened antitrust scrutiny IIUC, so it's plausible that past and current discussions were/are actually helpful. And fwiw, you're welcome to just ignore any threads or stories that you feel are getting repetitive. Many of us have a personal list of such topics, but our lists may not match.
- scrose 6y ago> Can we stop endlessly puting Apple's various authoritarians missteps under the spotlight? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you think the whole 'if you don't like something then shut-up and move' strategy is actually a logical solution.
- leppr 6y agoThere's better use of people's outrage than rallying behind a developer giving away their time to Apple in their walled garden. The replies in the HN thread confirm a derivative of my opinion is shared by most. And in this case, a strategy including 'move' will almost always be superior to one without. Complaining to incumbents does very little.
- amelius 6y agoCan we stop upvoting Apple stories on HN then? If not, then the best solution is to at least show us a balanced account of things.
- Bud 6y agoNot sure you understand what "authoritarian" actually means.
- crististm 6y agoHow can you tell he doesn't? I've read the same post and the semantics seem fine to me.
- crististm 6y agoThere are a number of cases where the publicity helped to reverse a not favorable decision. I think this is the same strategy used here and they seemed to have made their homework before going public. I don't know for how many cases this didn't work but it's clear that it works for _some_. They don't want to make a difference and don't want to change platforms. For what is worth, I'm glad for this publicity for it's clear it's part of a continuing stream of issues that should steer away any newcomer with open eyes.