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Is there an open source covid vaccine? One that publishes the commented mRNA code for example. I don't use proprietary software on my computer so the notion tha

Is there an open source covid vaccine? One that publishes the commented mRNA code for example. I don't use proprietary software on my computer so the notion that I would inject some in my body seems weird to me.

GBiT 6y ago
I want to ask. You don't eat by proprietary recipes made food and drinks too?
- h_anna_h 6y ago
  Eating something is different to putting it directly in your blood. Kinda like the difference between running a program as an unprivileged user and as root. Regarding your question I avoid them, and it is surprisingly easy to do so, most chefs seemed happy to share their recipes with me. As for drinks the ones that I drink tend to be simple (water, carbonated water, alcohol, etc).
  - scotty79 6y ago
    Vaccines don't go into your blood. Just into the muscle tissue.
vuciv1 6y ago
While I appreciate having healthy doubt, I'm concerned with the amount of people who would say "no" if they were offered a vaccine. Everyone has been eagerly waiting for a vaccine, but now that it's here, most people don't want it?
- h_anna_h 6y ago
  Most that were eager will probably go on to use it. I suspect that some were eager so that others would vaccinate and that they themselves would be protected due to "herd immunity" but I doubt that there are many of them. I personally was eager for an open source vaccine, not any vaccine at all. Saying that everyone has been eagerly waiting for a vaccine is not very accurate, after all there are also the antivax people and these that simply do not care.
  - MauranKilom 6y ago
    Serious question: What do you consider an "open source" vaccine? To what degree do the current vaccines not fulfill this? What specific concerns are the result of this difference, beyond principles?
    - h_anna_h 6y ago
      I would say that for a vaccine to be open source there should be exact instructions on how to create it along with a justification for each step, it should list the exact contents of the vaccine (preservatives, etc), as well as any genetic code included (along with a justification for each part of it). In addition it should be legal for someone to create their own vaccines by following said instructions. The part regarding legality of making your own copies would help with the vaccination of poor regions such as africa, while transparency could be used by researchers in order to find ways to improve it, or to create new vaccines for other viruses, or for students to learn more about it. In addition it would increase the trust of the general public for the vaccine.
MauranKilom 6y ago
From elsethread: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/ https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source... Sadly there is no gcc for vaccines. Yet.

GBiT 6y ago

I want to ask. You don't eat by proprietary recipes made food and drinks too?

h_anna_h 6y ago
Eating something is different to putting it directly in your blood. Kinda like the difference between running a program as an unprivileged user and as root. Regarding your question I avoid them, and it is surprisingly easy to do so, most chefs seemed happy to share their recipes with me. As for drinks the ones that I drink tend to be simple (water, carbonated water, alcohol, etc).
- scotty79 6y ago
  Vaccines don't go into your blood. Just into the muscle tissue.

vuciv1 6y ago

While I appreciate having healthy doubt, I'm concerned with the amount of people who would say "no" if they were offered a vaccine. Everyone has been eagerly waiting for a vaccine, but now that it's here, most people don't want it?

h_anna_h 6y ago
Most that were eager will probably go on to use it. I suspect that some were eager so that others would vaccinate and that they themselves would be protected due to "herd immunity" but I doubt that there are many of them. I personally was eager for an open source vaccine, not any vaccine at all. Saying that everyone has been eagerly waiting for a vaccine is not very accurate, after all there are also the antivax people and these that simply do not care.
- MauranKilom 6y ago
  Serious question: What do you consider an "open source" vaccine? To what degree do the current vaccines not fulfill this? What specific concerns are the result of this difference, beyond principles?
  - h_anna_h 6y ago
    I would say that for a vaccine to be open source there should be exact instructions on how to create it along with a justification for each step, it should list the exact contents of the vaccine (preservatives, etc), as well as any genetic code included (along with a justification for each part of it). In addition it should be legal for someone to create their own vaccines by following said instructions. The part regarding legality of making your own copies would help with the vaccination of poor regions such as africa, while transparency could be used by researchers in order to find ways to improve it, or to create new vaccines for other viruses, or for students to learn more about it. In addition it would increase the trust of the general public for the vaccine.

MauranKilom 6y ago

From elsethread: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/ https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source... Sadly there is no gcc for vaccines. Yet.