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Some additional context is that is that one of the organizers of NeurIps put Pedro Domingos and his "fanboys" on a list of people who her Twitter followers shou

Some additional context is that is that one of the organizers of NeurIps put Pedro Domingos and his "fanboys" on a list of people who her Twitter followers should contact en masse for the purposes of re-education. She said that people on the list who failed to be reeducated should be "canceled". The people on the receiving end of this re-education campaign felt like they were being targeted for harassment, and I can certainly see why. I'm vaguely curious what it took to get on the list of people to be canceled but haven't seen any specifics. IIRC the person distributing the list had strong opinions about renaming the conference Some of the tweets are still accessible via archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20201214014408/https://twitter.com/AnimaAnandkumar/status/1338298561692254209 https://web.archive.org/web/20201214014408/https://twitter.c...

refulgentis 6y ago
It sounds like we're cancelling someone for saying that we should cancel someone for saying something and dressing that up as some grand ideological battle
kergonath 6y ago
This is terrible. This is the opposite of what progressivism should be. They are just substituting one social order with another one with them on top. It is just an new brand of hatred, which is very difficult to reconcile with the values of equality, mutual understanding, and respect that are the heart of social justice and progress.
- throwaway19937 6y ago
  > It is just an new brand of hatred, which is very difficult to reconcile with the values of equality, mutual understanding, and respect that are the heart of social justice and progress. Do you have any examples of social justice standing for equality, mutual understanding, and respect? All I have encountered is hatred and witch-hunts but I would like to believe there's more to it than that.
  - kergonath 6y ago
    Well yes, the whole democracy thing. The humanists, and the enlightenment. There is some of that in the American constitution (though not quite realised; it's not the best example but it is the least unknown around here), and in the successive declarations of human rights, the abolition of slavery, women's vote, de-segregation, to name a few. All of this was done, not for revenge or retribution, but because it improved things for some people who were disenfranchised. So, social justice and progress instead of hatred or vengeance. The witch hunts we are seeing are actually from the standard totalitarian playbook, or straight up from Animal Farm. They ape the progressive ideals and turn them into a stick to hit people they don't like.

refulgentis 6y ago

It sounds like we're cancelling someone for saying that we should cancel someone for saying something and dressing that up as some grand ideological battle

kergonath 6y ago

This is terrible. This is the opposite of what progressivism should be. They are just substituting one social order with another one with them on top. It is just an new brand of hatred, which is very difficult to reconcile with the values of equality, mutual understanding, and respect that are the heart of social justice and progress.

throwaway19937 6y ago
> It is just an new brand of hatred, which is very difficult to reconcile with the values of equality, mutual understanding, and respect that are the heart of social justice and progress. Do you have any examples of social justice standing for equality, mutual understanding, and respect? All I have encountered is hatred and witch-hunts but I would like to believe there's more to it than that.
- kergonath 6y ago
  Well yes, the whole democracy thing. The humanists, and the enlightenment. There is some of that in the American constitution (though not quite realised; it's not the best example but it is the least unknown around here), and in the successive declarations of human rights, the abolition of slavery, women's vote, de-segregation, to name a few. All of this was done, not for revenge or retribution, but because it improved things for some people who were disenfranchised. So, social justice and progress instead of hatred or vengeance. The witch hunts we are seeing are actually from the standard totalitarian playbook, or straight up from Animal Farm. They ape the progressive ideals and turn them into a stick to hit people they don't like.