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> No, bullying cannot be solved by the victims As someone who has punched multiple bullies into the face, I can tell you it does stop it quite efficiently. Tw
by eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 6y ago
> No, bullying cannot be solved by the victims
As someone who has punched multiple bullies into the face, I can tell you it does stop it quite efficiently.
Two of them basically instantly switched to never again daring to acknowledge that I even exist, for the remaining >5 years of being on the same school. The remainder wasn't smart enough to stop instantly and thus got multiple beatings. There's always the one kid who needs to touch the hot stove multiple times until they realize it hurts ;)
Would I recommend it to children now that some decades have passed and I am an adult? I don't know.
But it does work, ideally if applied without prior threatening and in quick succession. People really don't like having multiple fists in their face when they didn't expect it to happen.
- GrinningFool 6y agoThis method works for the people who are able to do it (ability, personality, temperament). But it tends to reinforce the idea that those who can't take these steps somehow deserve to be bullied.
- giantg2 6y agoMaybe to a slight degree. There are some of those people with the abilities who are willing to stand up for others. Of course, the no tolerance (punish everyone) policies can promote bystanders to remain only bystanders.
- tracker1 6y ago^^^ this... What's funny is something a civics teacher said in 6th grade, "If you have the ability to intervene or help, you have the responsibility to do so." .. a few decades later, it's become "don't get involved, get a teacher or call the police." Plenty of lives are saved every day by those that aren't police, but have the ability to intervene.
- eeZah7Ux 6y ago> I can tell you it does stop it quite efficiently. Please avoid the patronizing tone. Your experience is not universal. I've personally witnessed victims escalating the conflict into much worse situations.
- giantg2 6y agoAnd it was that victim's choice to try to defend themself in the way that they did. It may have been better to choice a different option for that scenario. What we are talking about are zero tolerance policies that remove that choice by imposing unjust penalties for self defense. Just because it isn't work for one person doesn't mean we should remove that choice from everyone. I use the word choice here, but the right to defend oneself is really a natural right.
- eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 6y ago> Please avoid the patronizing tone. Your experience is not universal. I'm sorry, I did not mean to sound patronizing, but rather enabling for people in similar situations to be aware of the choices they have. > I've personally witnessed victims escalating the conflict into much worse situations. Of course punching someone in the face can always result in them falling in a really bad way and just being dead right away! My experience comes from a schoolkid age where body weight and muscle strength were still low enough to make that rather unlikely I would guess. Even if something bad had happened, I was still below the ago of criminal responsibility, so while neglecting the emotional and physical consequences for other people, consequences for me would have been a slap on the wrist.
- taurath 6y agoExamine for a minute why people remain bullied with such a simple solution. I am certain that every bullied child has heard about the solution of "just punch them in the face". They choose not to do so. Why? Is it just purely fear? A cursory glance would probably tell you no. I'd argue that the number of bullied people who could give a bunch of bullies "multiple beatings" are.... few.