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They’re suggesting that one drink a day for men is better than two? In my experience, it’s the people drinking 12+ in one sitting or 30+ units in a week who are
by jmpman 6y ago
They’re suggesting that one drink a day for men is better than two? In my experience, it’s the people drinking 12+ in one sitting or 30+ units in a week who are having the health issues.
Feels like suggesting lowering the speed limit to 55mph because it causes fewer deaths than 65mph. Just makes people skeptical of government overreach.
- zzzeek 6y agodo you work in the field of dietary research?
- manmal 6y agoAlcohol is damaging in small amounts already, there’s plenty of research around that.
- bitcharmer 6y agoResearch suggests that drinking an occasional glass of red wine is good for you. It provides antioxidants, may promote longevity, and can help protect against heart disease and harmful inflammation, among other benefits. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6099584/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6099584/ https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265635#can-wine-improve-health https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265635#can-wine-im... https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191021-is-wine-good-for-you https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191021-is-wine-good-for... So I guess it also depends on what type of alcohol you consume.
- boringg 6y agoI believe that recommendation is outdated and was rescinded.
- Dirlewanger 6y agoNope. All fabricated. No amount of alcohol is beneficial. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipak_K._Das https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipak_K._Das
- eeZah7Ux 6y agoAny link to credible meta-studies please?
- bitcharmer 6y agohttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6099584/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6099584/ https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265635#can-wine-improve-health https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265635#can-wine-im... https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191021-is-wine-good-for-you https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191021-is-wine-good-for... It looks like there is no strong consensus on this issue among the researchers.
- Shorel 6y agoI remember once reading there are two kinds of people who live the longest: the ones who never ever drink alcohol, and the ones who have a drink every day. The ones like me, who don't drink every day, but then get wasted one weekend, are the most negatively affected by alcohol.
- disgruntledphd2 6y agoEpidemiological studies of alcohol have one incredibly large problem, as both recovering alcoholics and teetotalers report no alcohol consumption. There's some evidence that the beneficial impact of alcohol comes from the comparison between people who have one drink a day (relatively healthy) and recovering alcoholics (typically extremely unhealthy).
- fauigerzigerk 6y agoTrue, but that research also shows that the negative impact is dose dependent in a very non-linear fashion. The information I would hope to get out of such guidelines is at what level the risk curve starts to bend upwards rather more steeply.
- sokoloff 6y agoPeople regularly drinking 12 beers in a sitting are unlikely to change their behavior because some government eggheads wrote a paper saying it wasn't healthy. I suspect they already know that and just judge that they'd rather do that anyway. People somewhat regularly having 3 beers might be convinced to only have 2 or 2 down to only 1.
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- sidpatil 6y ago> Feels like suggesting lowering the speed limit to 55mph because it causes fewer deaths than 65mph. Actually, the 55mph speed limit was enacted as an energy conservation measure, not as a public safety measure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoBut people did oppose raising it from 55 on grounds of public safety.
- boringg 6y agoI mean is it government overreach to recommend a healthier lifestyle? It would be government overreach if they mandated a limit or some kind of mechanism. If anything this is a soft recommendation on how to live a healthier life. Hardly government overreach.
- driverdan 6y agoIf you have 14 drinks a week on a regular basis you have a problem.