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by mbesto 6y ago
> is the critical effects of sleeplessness and promoting healthy sleep as a national public health priority.
> It seems to me this is just another pernicious example of how lockdowns and disrupting a population’s routines directly and indirectly damages public health
And people literally dying from a virus isn't a public health priority?
- Smaug123 6y agoI don't think that was either stated or implied. Pandemics being bad for you doesn't automatically mean lockdowns are good for you, and vice versa!
- anonunivgrad 6y agoBy suggesting any negative effects of lockdowns, you have inadvertently challenged a tenet of the new national religion.
- cubano 6y agoYou mean like this article from the UN World Food Programme[0] that states due to overzealous lockdowns, that up to 80 children "elsewhere" are at very high risk of starvation for every over-70 US citizen it perhaps saves? Yes...mentioning things like this sure gets in the way of all the virtue-signalling that's going on these days. [0] https://www.wfp.org/news/wfp-chief-warns-grave-dangers-economic-impact-coronavirus-millions-are-pushed-further-hunger https://www.wfp.org/news/wfp-chief-warns-grave-dangers-econo...
- anonunivgrad 6y agoAs High Priest Cuomo said, if it saves even one life, it's worth it. Who are you to say that it's okay to risk the life of a 90 year old already in hospice?
- logifail 6y ago> people literally dying from a virus isn't a public health priority (This is going to seem combative, but it's not meant to be...) https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/12/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-17-December-2020-weekly-file.xlsx https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sit... Look at the deaths by age and pre-existing-condition ("Tab 3 Deaths by condition") If you are under 60 and healthy, you are appear to be at almost no risk from C19.
- tomrod 6y agoYes, in the immediate term C19 does not appear to impact mortality as a direct consequence of the virus if you under 60 + healthy. There are going to be a lot of long haul knock-ons to the health system, like cardiovascular issues, from what I'm reading.
- logifail 6y ago> There are going to be a lot of long haul knock-ons to the health system Citation? The effects of lockdowns are presumably also going to cause a significant effect on health in the medium and longer term? The economic effects are certainly going to be felt for decades.
- tomrod 6y agoCitation: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects.... I wrote a long response to your claim. However, for my mental health and your time, I will simply state that your assessment that the mental health impact of lockdown means it is not worth lockdown is superficial, misaligned to understanding the nation-cratering impact of a health system collapse, and should be reconsidered.
- xorcist 6y agoPlease do not suggest that the public health effects of lockdowns are limited to mental health and economic effects. There are remarkably fewer people diagnosed with early stages of cancer, for example. The question is then, if suddently the incidence went down or will people die unnecessarily from worse screening programs and non emergency care? Things like kids missing out on school is a clear factor in lower life expectancy, one of the few things which hold true independent of country and age group studied.
- nradov 6y agoPeople literally dying from a virus shouldn't be the only public health priority. There has to be a balanced focus on total public health accounting for all causes of morbidity and mortality.