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Personally speaking, it just struck me as odd that - outside of some rare exceptions - that someone could be so dumb that he'd actually be ignorant of his inept
by lr4444lr 6y ago
Personally speaking, it just struck me as odd that - outside of some rare exceptions - that someone could be so dumb that he'd actually be ignorant of his ineptitude. This is different than misrepresenting your ability. Lots of people do that for lots of reasons, but for someone to be so sheerly ignorant as is often given in the case examples struck me as someone who will sooner rather than later learn painful lessons about the truth of his own shortcomings.
- emerged 6y agoThe people I know who fall into this category construct an elaborate world view where they are the constant victim of all the idiots and jerks of the world. Everything that goes wrong is someone else’s fault, not their own ignorance and bad choices.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 6y agoSo half of reddit?
- mhh__ 6y agoMaybe the HN delusions of grandeur effect is real after all (...I like both, merry Christmas)
- MeinBlutIstBlau 6y agoI'm not saying reddit doesnt have any uses. But /r/popular is not what it once was. Like imagine if HN was covered in memes and low quality content.
- iratewizard 6y agoYou're grossly underestimating
- Caylio 6y agoIts the DK effect in action.
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- runawaybottle 6y agoIn other words, the Dunning-Kruger effect is a by product of deep narcissism (as opposed to sheer stupidity or ignorance, making it a palatably sinister pathological fungal outgrowth, truly scary). They say these anti social personality disorders only represent 1-2% of society, but I always try to look at the results of a society to infer the true percentage. I’d say Nazi Germany had a particular anti social personality disorder at scale, over 50%. I’ll let you guys infer where everyone else is at now days.
- irrational 6y agoEvery single relationship you’ve ever had has failed and it has always been the fault of the other person? Please tell me more.
- jdsalaro 6y agoYou might find this study interesting: "Researchers identify a new personality construct that describes the tendency to see oneself as a victim" https://www.psypost.org/2020/12/researchers-identify-a-new-personality-construct-that-describes-the-tendency-to-see-oneself-as-a-victim-58753 https://www.psypost.org/2020/12/researchers-identify-a-new-p...
- emerged 6y agoI think it's generally understood that people have varying degrees of self-agency. If you're the sort who doesn't believe in your own agency, that everything happens to you rather than you being largely in control, then when life hands you lemons you will consider yourself a victim.
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- Spooky23 6y agoIMO, like many things interpreted at a surface level, it’s easy to miss the detail. “Dumb” is the wrong descriptor. If you’ve ever worked in a politicized environment, it’s easy to observe spectacularly talented people who are uniquely unqualified to do whatever they are doing. Those are usually good at something else, and those skills generally allow them to avoid consequences for their incompetence, unless they get unlucky. Another common scenario you see in business is when attorneys get put in charge of things, or talented salesmen get put into non-sales executive jobs.
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- leoc 6y agoIt's really not uncommon. You can go a long time before you have an accurate self-assessment forced on you. https://youtu.be/jq1_2P6YWtA?t=259 https://youtu.be/jq1_2P6YWtA?t=259 is good, a typically honest reflection from Anthony Stauffer, someone who is no idiot.