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Defaulting to keeping your cat indoors is cruel. Instead put out some bird feeders. Cats love the outdoors. It's evil to take that away from them. Not all cats

Defaulting to keeping your cat indoors is cruel. Instead put out some bird feeders. Cats love the outdoors. It's evil to take that away from them. Not all cats even kill birds.

krisroadruck 6y ago
You really don't know what you are talking about mate. Indoor cats live 13-17 years. Outdoor cats average 2-5. What's cruel is willfully exposing your cat to an environment that will very likely result in a reduction of their lifespan by 60-80%. There are plenty of ways to stimulate a cat that don't involve dramatic risk of disease, parasites, disfigurement or death by predator or vehicle.
- h_anna_h 6y ago
  Pretty sure that you are talking about feral cats rather than cats that are allowed to go outdoors.
  - krisroadruck 6y ago
    I am not. I am talking about domestic cats allowed to roam outdoors unsupervised some of the time.
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  > Outdoor cats average 2-5. On the other anecdata, my parents have only had outdoor cats and every single one has made it past 5 - several past 10, one past 20. Of the 10 I can think of just now, only 1 died of "unnatural" causes (car).
- throwawaysea 6y ago
  What’s your source on the life expectancy of outdoor cats? I haven’t observed this having any impact myself. Cats that stay indoors and ones that free roam seem to have the same life expectancy. The ones that roam even seem healthier.
  - krisroadruck 6y ago
    Human Society and University of California-Davis.
    - h_anna_h 6y ago
      Would you happen to have the exact paper?
ShinTakuya 6y ago
The pet cat industry in general is evil. Keeping them indoors is the best way to protect local wildlife, there are still many ways to make an indoor cat happy. If it were up to me, breeding of cats would be banned and existing populations would be the "final" permitted generation.
- tracker1 6y ago
  Or, we have one final generation of people and let nature sort itself out...

Defaulting to keeping your cat indoors is cruel. Instead put out some bird feeders. Cats love the outdoors. It's evil to take that away from them. Not all cats even kill birds.

krisroadruck 6y ago

You really don't know what you are talking about mate. Indoor cats live 13-17 years. Outdoor cats average 2-5. What's cruel is willfully exposing your cat to an environment that will very likely result in a reduction of their lifespan by 60-80%. There are plenty of ways to stimulate a cat that don't involve dramatic risk of disease, parasites, disfigurement or death by predator or vehicle.

h_anna_h 6y ago
Pretty sure that you are talking about feral cats rather than cats that are allowed to go outdoors.
- krisroadruck 6y ago
  I am not. I am talking about domestic cats allowed to roam outdoors unsupervised some of the time.
zimpenfish 6y ago
> Outdoor cats average 2-5. On the other anecdata, my parents have only had outdoor cats and every single one has made it past 5 - several past 10, one past 20. Of the 10 I can think of just now, only 1 died of "unnatural" causes (car).
throwawaysea 6y ago
What’s your source on the life expectancy of outdoor cats? I haven’t observed this having any impact myself. Cats that stay indoors and ones that free roam seem to have the same life expectancy. The ones that roam even seem healthier.
- krisroadruck 6y ago
  Human Society and University of California-Davis.
  - h_anna_h 6y ago
    Would you happen to have the exact paper?

ShinTakuya 6y ago

The pet cat industry in general is evil. Keeping them indoors is the best way to protect local wildlife, there are still many ways to make an indoor cat happy. If it were up to me, breeding of cats would be banned and existing populations would be the "final" permitted generation.

tracker1 6y ago
Or, we have one final generation of people and let nature sort itself out...